Yeah definitely have to make sure whatever ‘B’ is, is still something you want to have in there as it will definitely come out in the BX line.
Right @HolyAngel
Yes, that would be a runt, a candidate for eliminating…before she even got into early flower.
Same as this juvenile runty thing pissing me off, prly not gonna wait to see how she smokes.
Sometimes the runt is just the recessive pheno and its not due to some issue or inherent problem with the plant. Sometimes the runt ends up being the best smoke.
Then that is your selection criteria as a breeder…for others to tear into and tear down to inflate their egos…i wont…but you should know there will be people that don’t do it like that
I learn a lot just by listening.
…didnt someone mention transgressive segregation…is that runty spindly plants when that happens? I should re-read some shit
Edit, kudos on the co-dominate trait thing…that’s real folks
I enjoy the talks.
Has anyone ever smoke a bud that had them tweaking like one of those people you see in YouTube videos. Well yesterday I got ahold of something that messed me up really bad.
I can only imagine the knowledge bombs you drop while I’m away.
Keep em coming my friend, respect.
Transgressive segregation are extreme phenos, or, additive dominance.
(Not the exact term, but w/e. Fromage baguette, Hon hon)
All this talk about Dna while in my observation the vast majority of Cannabis operations, the ones growing 99% of the cannabis being consumed domestically, have horrid DNA transcriptome, picking up more junk dna from the environment than the plants own plantcestors. Which reminds me of an old journal headling: Lateral gene transfer of foreign Dna; the missing link between cannabis and schizophrenia
If your bud has to be “cured” to stop smelling like chemicals and start smelling like weed, you’ve passed on bad DNA. If you grow hydroponically without B vitamins, the plant won’t pass its best form along.
Beyond epigenetics. The richer become richer and the poorer become poorer in the natural world. Eat trash and die is a rule of nature. Funny how the west forgets all its useful superstitions and clings to the harmful ones.
You are what you smoke. Alot of “chest highs” since legalization. The high doesn’t travel the spine in either direction, it sits on the heart. Legal Sativas, the most overfed poorly grown, misunderstood, ignored, premature plants of the legal era, have sufferered massive descrimintion because of bad cannabis husbandry practices. Bud full of chemicals with incomplete metabolism: The high sits in the chest cavity. The body spends its energy trying to recognize what you’ve done to it instead of getting you medicated. The legal era says don’t smoke hexenal or ammonia, but every other form of incomplete metabolism = “nice terps, bro”. Plastic weed everywhere, creating plastic people…
Methyl folate - Regulates fungal demographics
B12 - Regulates fungal demographics
B6 - Immune system activation, regulates aminos
Riboflavin - Use aminos to turn UV-b radiation into thiols instead of phloem-clogging anthocyanins.
Magnesium - Stimulates transmembrane amino enzyme activity
Betaine - Transports fatty acids into mitochondria to be oxidized
Vitamin D - Symbiotic fungal metabolite. Helps transport minerals like phosphorus, calcium etc in fat acids.
I only know what works form me.
Instead of simply waiting for potent phenos to appear in my genetics, I take a proactive approach by incorporating strains with higher potency.
Since offspring of any breeding mostly represent the parents and grandparents, it’s safe to assume the better that your parents and grandparents are, the better the better the offspring of the cross will be.
When making a cross whereas both parents carry the gene for higher potency, the offspring of such a cross will be inclined to be of increased potency.
By crossing 2 of the increased potency offspring, you get even more offspring of increased potency. We continue to use this method until we “weed” out the genetics that have less potency over multiple generations.
When reintroducing less potent genetics, we know that the process of removing the less potent genetics starts over again.
What this leads to is absurdity because it mean that previous generations become obsolete unless they offer some genetic anomaly that causes it to produce exponentially potent offspring.
You never know how the genes will arranged themselves, or the type of modifiers that will effect them. Just like other genes, the potency gene is also affected by these modifiers that are unique to that particular strain.
Meaning that at any time the genetics can produce plants that are potently superior to either of its parents.
Ok then. Off to breed with B vitamins…
It’s not about knowledge bombs, it’s about practices that are proven to work versus practice that have been used for countless years that barely provide any improve to cannabis that go beyond the aesthetics of the plant.
The breeding protocol that I like to do invoke too many breeding therefore sound horrible to the quick fix breeders that offer no real solution to the lack of plant potency problem that plagues modern cannabis.
I have tested my theory on multiple crosses, each of which exhibited a more potent high and longer duration of effects which often lasted 4 or more hours.
Also, their terps would be more realistically mimic the fruit or item the plant reeks of. Often I find myself licking my lips to remove the flavor of the bud from them.
I could easily cross a breeders favorite strain to the Nympho and get spectacular results in just a few breeding. Results were if it wasn’t for the taste, you would find it hard to believe that it came from the same cross.
The proof is in the smoke brothers. Stay lit.
I was reading about transgressive segregation and came across this information which perfectly describe how my plants work.
The article is about rice but I’m sure the same effects happens in cannabis. Personally I attribute the performance of my plants to hybrid vigor and keeping the gene pool fresh and moving forward. Or as another member said above, I like to keep my plants Evolving.
Also, It takes a keen eye to spot some of the genetics anomalies that show up in the plants after making a cross. It’s that 34+ years of breeding experience that has taught me how to spot the tiniest differences in phenos and the mechanics of the high associated with each cross.
By manipulating the chemicals that produce the high I’m better able to control how my plants perform. Thus I’m able to get them to perform in a consistent manner because each cross has a signature high.
I don’t see a problem with holding a cut or strain for 20 or more years. However, I prefer to see how the holder of the cut manipulates the plant evolution while he is in possession of the cut, instead of simply holding it while all the while making no improvement over those years.
I breed my plants to perform and to be used as a breeder’s tool who offspring will usher in a new era of cannabis that will last test of time.
My only complaints about my bud is that I can be too potent for some users. But potent is how I like my bud so I breed for the most potent effects possible. I don’t produce rookie bud and even some of the most season guy will did that it’s will be above their tolerance threshold.
She is a good plant to cross to in order to bring the potency back to strains that have lost some of their effectiveness. The nose on her is also really nice as she add power, and the old school funk back into modern cannabis strains.
Thanks for the paper. The bits about causes and frequencies are quite interesting.
Have you noticed a change in effect when you first outcross, by change I mean a less defined, more blurry “hybrid” high.
I read that it takes a few (4-6) generations to shake off the hybrid buzz and move toward a more refined high with its own character…
I’ve found the high’s in all my crosses come out as a 50/50 split from both parents. I can clearly tell both parents are in the high and showing up, and sometimes the effects from the grandparents too. I don’t see effects I never saw in the parents. Some high’s are more dominating than others, the A5Haze tends to come through even after being bred away from twice. She still comes through like a freight train.
I find breeding for the high’s of plants to be more important than breeding for terpenes or anything else. I don’t like the constant sativa meets indica smash up a lot of breeders have been doing for the last 3+ decades. Two totally different highs mashed together That’s exactly why we have this bland hybrid high in all the modern genetics. I don’t like feeling motivated for an hour just to be couchlocked and pass out right after. I like daytime herb for daytime, and nighttime herb for nighttime. Glorious things can be pulled out of a mashup though and worked. Hard part is finding the matching male to make the new line.
Smoke dem if you got ‘em.