I’ve got two examples here of what all my friends are telling me is devastatingly potent… I gauge potency by how many times I put a joint down and then relight it sometime later.
These are plants that turned purple in the final weeks without my intervention as in I did not feed them cold water to induce a purple response.
The two strains are Bad Dawg Genetics Runaway Bride and my own creation Bubba Royale.
Both cured to deep dark purples and stand right up to some of my most potent “green” strains.
I don’t understand how pigmentation can reduce THC output.
I would like to see some hard data on that theory
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Any pics, sounds like some magnificent looking strainz
I’ll take some bubba royale nug shots tomorrow perhaps but I do have pics of the purple runaway bride. Those beans were freebies from a great lakes genetics order… killer freebies I gotta say.
Bad Dawg Genetics- Runaway Bride
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It’s not about comparing the purple plant to some other different strain green plant. Its the fact that if the purple plant was a green plant, it would be even more potent. If you have one single strain and within that singular strain some plants are purple and some are 100% green, 99% of the time the green plants will be more potent than any of the purple plants in that specific strain.
All green means best absorption possible.
When the plant colors up, it’s usually due to light or cold stress though some are genetic, it reflects back the color(s) it can’t use. Red and blue are the best drivers of photosynthesis so if your flowers are reflecting back red/blue/purple then they aren’t absorbing those spectrum’s of light. They’re now absorbing green. The spectrum our lights generally put out the least amount of.
Regardless, It can’t have the same amount of chlorophyll while also having all these extra anthocyanin’s and/or carotenoids. So there has to be an efficiency trade-off somewhere.
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I understand what @HolyAngel is putting down, but I surely would rock that purple shit in a jar on my rope chain 
and roll them shits up!
Nice looking plant @SHSC-1 beautiful trim on the finished product 
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This Is not a breeding question but more of a “want to make some seeds” and not to Always buy Them.
I have Autoflowering plants to work with and a friend told me to go STS instead of what I have at home(CS 50ppm).
Now,running One plant to reverse It and then running two more later on to selectively pollinate them in lower branches would give me viable good seeds?
Is the reversed plant not smokable?Even if I only spray and reverse lower branches?
My box Is 80x80 cm and pots are 1 liters,coco
I am working with Fastbuds or Sweetseeds.
All the plants I want to work with are same strain
Or Can I go with Just selfing the plant to have seeds and messing around less time?
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STS will work much better while also requiring less sprays, but the CS should still work… I’ve not tried it myself.
Yep should definitely get some viable feminized seeds.
I have always heard not to smoke the plant you reverse. Even if it’s just lower branches, the silver is systemic by nature so, I personally wouldn’t even want to risk it.
My understanding is the CS/STS can and will kill the plant being reversed so you definitely want to use the pollen on another clone or plant and not try to self the same plant you’re reversing.
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Oh my gosh thank you so much
@HolyAngel
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Yes! Awesome guys yes yes my exact conclusion also. Purple weed is for squares 
… Pound for pound in the ring the green sibling has a higher potential and as the numbers add up it really starts to show and become a giant elephant in the room. Purple leaf plants whose bract/calyx resist it are better off than purple bract/calyx plants. Both though, are inferior to their green siblings who are firing on all cylinders.
The exact nature of it’s failure seems to revolve around the over all potency and cerebral nature of the high. If you want some weaker stuff that makes you want to sleep, purple is a go
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I like to giveaway weed and whenever I give someone something purple and they ask me to tell them a little about it I just shrug and say “it’s purple.” Like there’s nothing else to say.
I did have a shishkaberry turn purple on me and she was very good but in general the purple just doesn’t do it for me and I could do without it.
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Imagine the first half of macro cannabinoid biosythesis slowing down while THC freely continues to convert to cbn. Welcome to purps lol.
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Again I hate to jump to conclusions but man, the numbers are stacking up against purple grass dudes. It’s a giant elephant in the room at this point and it’s prolly time we start talking about it
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Well, I could see why some people like it. It’s got a cool factor I don’t understand but it does. And if it’s a little weaker than a green sister that’s not the end of the world.
If I was a dealer purple weed would be gold.
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I been growing for nigh 40 years guys. 5 inbred lines. All of them can and do go purple at x%. Tens of thousands of plants man. Purple weed sucks
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Really cool open to this thread. Inbreeding depression is a lack of heterozygosity by definition. Its not necessarily synonymous with degradation of quality.
Almost all drug type cannabis has been made using half sib selection, seed from male pollen mixes pulled from the finer females. The males are traditionally fixed in position though and that messes greatly with maths compared to what we can do with more modern methods.
What’s really going on and what really matters is this. Plant 6867 and plant 2759 both suck in regards to phenotype. But they both are a genotype holding something not expressed in either, that must come together, to realize the full potential of the line 3 generations from now. This is actually how it works and yeah it’s totally fucked
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I wonder how good breeders have been throughout history?
To keep the population maximally resistant, healthy and adaptable, and to maintain and develop it into a drug type cultivar.
I guess the question is how different the approach could be with today’s knowledge, and in the conditions of the past?
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I think today’s knowledge is lower than ever in history. It is very dangerous to breed by numbers in the lab when we still do not understand the plant really. I am still waiting for my lab test explaining a 30 minute high vs a 5 hour high. A sleepy high vs an extreme cerebral high. People say mercene etc but it’s just not true man. Old plant, young science.
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Yes, it seems like a typical lack of Chesterton’s fence principle. Perhaps the most important downside of the modern approach to reality
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What I really wanna know is, does cannabis have a fused chromosome like us and the rest of our domesticated plants and animals.
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