Who likes History?

** not all were informed of the dangers of what was being administered.

Still going… In 2019 the facility was shutdown for a year due to protocol violations following the use of Ebola and macaques.

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This was informative

Holy crap!
Now that woman truly knew how to give head…….

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What?
Where?
How much?

Was it? Are there scores of people sitting around thinking about whether German industrialists funded the rise of the Nazi party? Is this like the Roman Empire where scores of men sit around thinking about the activities of 1930s German industrialists and I just didn’t know it?

I pretty quickly started wondering “Who is this guy?” And hey, it only took til 9:37 in for him to betray his agenda explicitly.

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There are books on this. This Bart Ehrman PHD guy has a lot of books on the subject. He comes highly recommended in the field.

https://amzn.to/3TihRTy

Elaine Pagels is also well regarded

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This guy is trying to do protectionist historical cherry picking to ignore the link between fascism and capitalism. There is some absolute trash history channels on YouTube and he seems like one of them. He is laundering and softening nazism.

Businesses were so involved the United States had projects to extract their best people (operation paper clip). List of companies involved in the Holocaust - Wikipedia

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Yep. History is crazy when you read up on it.

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My wife used to be friendly with his daughter. He’s definitely up there on the list of respected Jesus-scholars.

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Can this thread try to focus on interesting parts of history without resorting to fighting with eachother about capitalism or fascism? If I want to see that, I’ll sign back up for Facebook.

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Good luck getting me to shut up about Nazi-apologists.

It’s a fine line, being a serious scholar of the Third Reich and being an actual effing (wannabe) Nazi.

ETA: I think there was supposed to be an element of sarcasm in the last part… there isn’t a fine line, but casual enthusiasts about studying Nazi Germany… sometimes the interest seems highly suspect.

ETA 2: Just to be clear, I’m badmouthing TOK.

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This is a great episode on the holocaust with an interview with one of the top scholars in the field.

It wasn’t just nazi information/scientists that kept going in US. It was also the Japanese with their extensive information on the effects of biological warfare, torture etc on the Chinese. These methods were directly tested and researched at that facility in MD that I mentioned a few posts up. They didn’t just use the information from the Japanese torturers but they also experimented on US soldiers without fully informing them of the consequences. That’s doubly fucked.

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This is why I am here, holy frog this is one of the coolest things I have ever seen.

For anyone interested in Norse history & mythology, Snorri Sturlesson is the reason many of the old stories survived.

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love his work speaks my language i am a skinny carpenter

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This amateur dude on YouTube makes the best space program documentaries ever. I have watched them all multiple times and they play in the background in my shop more often than not.
https://youtube.com/@jacksontyler?si=7ncTFh1KLRiwo2Xz

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Huge history guy here. Several years back, I started in on this. My parents had the entire set on the shelf when I was growing up.

It is a remarkably entertaining read. Not especially difficult, but not the easiest, either.

If you’re only up for a bit of it, read the first 60 or so pages of the first volume. This is where they talk about humans merely existing versus humans forming civilizations – how it happened, why, etc. What constitutes a civilization? How it was only with the advent of agriculture that humans could stop migrating, and that was the point at which true civilization began to develop.

I specifically remember a passage about the idea that perhaps humans might’ve simply harvested some wild growing plants and, in the process of carrying the harvest back to their village, noticed over time that the same plant started to sprout along the path they followed – and then deduced the idea of seeds. :slight_smile: That blew my mind the first time I read it, and it still sorta does.

No, I’m not done yet. :slight_smile:

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The stuff on Jesus and Caesar is rather good. The beginning is lack luster due to him not having as much information in other societies besides “western.” I had to stop reading eventually.

I think it is important to keep in mind that a lot of the stuff is outdated. This kind of history went by the wayside for more specialization. I really enjoy The Story Of Philosophy.

I would still recommend the series with the note that it is a product of its time but can still hold many kernels of interesting knowledge that are hard to come by otherwise.

I really enjoyed this

https://amzn.to/44IRjAd

I really like this statement, thank you for sharing your thoughts.