The way I see it you’re also using a water only soil. It’s all good, just keep watering from the bottom I’d say. You should be good for a whole grow cycle without adding anything else.
Yes, about 2.5 gallons. Are you going to transplant to bigger pots or keep them in the small pots?
Either way, all the nutrients are already in the soil. Just let it go to town all by itself.
Edit: My point is, cramming more stuff in your living soil isn’t going to speed anything up.
The soil has its own tempo and rhythm.
Yes, I will be transplanting into 1 gallon pots about maybe 3/4 filled (with only about 4/7 of that with this LOS potting soil)…
How bout this… while these are not clones so it won’t be a perfect scientific experiment, one of soils in the next pot I will leave alone until some sign shows itself for ya and as somewhat of a baseline…
Maybe I’ll go 50/50 of the pots, half baseline, half with additions, or try a few different mixes.
Sounds like a great idea. What would you add as the other 1/4 part? Might as well make it fresh organic matter. I don’t see the use of cococoir or perlite or any of that dead stuff that just takes up space that could be used for nutrient rich matter that breaks down fast.
Edit: I mean the other 3/7. I’m guessing you wanna keep the 1/4 for mulching?
I have a spreadsheet that’s kind of nuts which I have to work on further, but a lot of it is based on Leighton Morrison soil engineer dude that has been on the Future Cannabis Project a bunch of times…
He has a couple videos where he does his soil horizons so I was planning on mimicking that for the most part maybe with some slight variations here and there…
There is another guy I like, I forget his name but his IG I believe is Harti Gear? who also comes on that show and he feels it should just all be the sort of traditional all organic matter potting soil type deal if I understand him correctly…
Both these guys seem to really know their stuff, besides a ton of other people as well, but the Harti guy also makes me question if ai want to do the horizons…
His biggest grip with it is that it is wasted space in the pot… my thing is I’m not trying to have a ton of space as I’m not trying to grow monsters, but I certainly do respect his knowledge/opinion so it does make me pause and maybe reconsider…
Also, so one thing I like about the horizons in my situation is that it’s supposed to help keep the organic fines from seeping out/down to the bottom almost like a filter… I would like to keep my caps mats water only and clean for the most part so I hope this will help, but I also wonder if that E layer will have trouble wicking up?
So basically, if you don’t know, some of my specific way I’m gonna try (there will be variations on this), is a half inch of an E layer composed of sand and volcanic rock, an inch of A layer that will be an attempted specific ratio of sand/silt/clay/organic material, and then the final 4” of the O layer which is basically the potting soil.
I might try a pumice sand version E, and possibly some different A mixes, and def some different O mixes… this will best be tested with clones if I can get to that situation even lol
That’s exactly the problem, the soil is full of N and the soy aminos are basically forcefeeding the plant too much N. It doesn’t need to be more available, it’s already available. That soy amino stuff disrupts the balance. The plant knows how much it can handle but you’re shoving it down her throat like you want foi gras. Show your girls some mercy
Two sets of true, five fingered, leaves is what I’ve read. Has worked well for me to up pot from the seed starer to the veg pot there more for water. I kept seedling, even clones, a month or so in a 2-1/2” pot. They were starting to eat themselves from the bottom about by then.
Here are some closer pics for anyone’s two cents about what the leaves might be saying, you might be right about them having too much N, but they also could be messed up from over/under watering at past points or other reasons:
RO water works fine, as long as your soil is all good. You might have some crispy leaves when you get close to chopping, but that’s not an issue. Your flowers will still turn out stellar.
People freak out when senescence starts happening (I definitely did when I first started growing) but it’s really not a big deal. Don’t worry about shit. Grow those plants, smoke that weed and enjoy haha.
Anyway, fellow SoCal grower here. I’m gonna be following along…
Yeah, when the plants are that tiny, you don’t wanna be watering with so much water that it drains to the bottom. Half a cup at the most. A quarter-cup, even. The pots have plenty of water at the bottom. What you wanna be doing at this stage is watering just enough to keep the top third of the soil, uh, moist (ew… haha).
When my plants are where yours are at, I water with a quarter-cup or so every other day. Do not drench.
Yeah, I don’t think I’m really drenching all that much, well, let’s put it this way, water never has drained out the bottom… I think the majority is being bottom watered where they suck up what they need, and they suck it up pretty quick…
I just had one time where the whole tray flooded and they were all sitting in water about half the height of the container for hours, that kind of threw me off.
That’s waaaayyyyy down the line. And I dunno how it “relates” to crispy leaves; I just know that by the time I chop my plants, there’s a LOT of crispy leaves. It doesn’t make any difference, I don’t think. The weed I grow is amazing haha.
I looked at the rest of the thread. You’re fine. Seedlings might develop yellow edges or whatever early on. Just let them ride. Do NOT start feeding them anything right now. Let them go until they have enough roots to transplant to a bigger pot (I’m assuming that’s your plan). Once you get them in bigger pots, their roots will stretch and they’ll look great.
My plants always look a little rough around day 30 of veg, but when I get them into their half-gallon veg pots, they take off and explode. You’ll be fine. The more you worry, the more you worry. Don’t worry.
What’s your soil mix? I don’t think I saw that, if you mentioned it.
Okay, yeah, that’s a good soil mix. Although I don’t know what “light recipe” means. I plant my seeds directly in the soil I use from beginning to end.
Honestly, you should be able to “leave them alone” for the entire grow. Water-only, for the most part. There’s no reason for you to add anything to your water with that soil mix. That’s kind of the whole point of organic growing, is that everything your plants need is already in the soil. Just water every other day and they’ll be fine. Keep your soil happy and your plants should thrive.
Anyway, yeah, you’ll be fine. I like that you’re already mulching, even in those tiny pots. I do the same thing, mulch right from the start. You obviously know what you’re doing, even if you don’t know it yet haha.
Thanks, trying my best you know? A decent amount of research but limited experience.
Plus not following an exact recipe/guideline so a bit on my own in some regards I guess. Part of it is also buying some things before I knew better and wanting to make use them as well lol
So my understanding is that the “light” soil means it has less compost vs some of their other ones and is meant for seedlings/clones I believe.
I think it’s supposed to take you pretty far but to be amended at some point before harvest… look them up on YouTube, Jeremy the owner has a new series going following some of his grows, it’s pretty good. I think he amended it in his series right before flower with some of his bloom amendments, but he has a way bigger pot.