ABushOfKush's Cannabis Adventure - Michigan

I hear ya friend!!! Septoria has decimated quite a few of my plants, and they look quite embarrassing. It was brutal out in the swamp this year, mosquitoes by the billions, worst I’ve ever had them in 16 years of living here. The kids went and bought new suits just to be able to water, bug spray didn’t do a damn thing, they still attacked you.
I bought the table top model a few years ago after taking down 2 plants with 3 people took us well over 75 hours, and that was with a bowl trimmer, which helped, but wasn’t fond of.
It makes quick work out of trimming though, my buddy brought over a 50 gallon trash bag full last year, and from start to finish, it was just about 3 1/2 hours to get all pushed thru for his drying racks, ended up being like 37#’s wet.
I rented a Twister T6 and it was a joke, not much better then a bowl trimmer IMO, and this little Centurion is the shit, doesn’t bruise the buds like a bowl trimmer, and trichome loss is just like scissor trimmed, except for the extra frosty strains.
We are under way, and will be taking down plants probably every other day for the next couple weeks.

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The Snake Venom compared to the Cotton Candy Crunch and Chocolatina. Such a sad sight. I cut down the sunflower a few days ago. If only I had known that was making it worse for the last 3 months…

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Is that the chocolatina to the right?

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Yes it is. The most resilient but we have been getting rain today and the next couple days. I can already see it getting worse from yesterday.

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Holding up like a champ compared to the other two.

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Mine are starting to get it as well. Gets me thinking how the hell can we eradicate it. Gonna have to keep that septoria from overwintering. If not next year could be even worse. @ABushOfKush question for you. Was the effected plants all in the ground and not in containers ? Mine were all in the ground. I will clean up what I can from the garden and then put out a big sheet of black plastic on top to cook the soil and just do big pots next year. Unless there is another way to kill it off. Pretty sure it comes from the ground. Has to be a way to kill it or at least keep it bay. Probably be a good idea to do some yard work and burn anything that has it on it as well. All my early finishers are getting bad the last few days. My Flo , Flo x White widow are fighting it off still but I have spotted those damn bullseyes on them now. Gonna hit them hard with hypochlorous acid again now that the rain is gone. Maybe I should have kept spraying through all the rain. Who knows. Or maybe it’s time to build a killer greenhouse.

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I haven’t spent a whole lot of time researching it, but, the little that I did It appears to be a wind blown spore, but also infects the soil. We hear in Michigan, as you know, because you’ve got it too, that it’s been a bitch of a season for it.
It has decimated my apple tree, my Maples, Poplars, and the wild flowers we keep for the bees are all stricken with it. I went out to my back 2 1/2 acres, and damn near every tree back there has it, it’s just crazy.
I have found a page that says, Regalia, Dr Zymes, Cease, and Zerotol are all good combatants once Septoria is noticed.
I HAD a bottle of Zerotol, but my lovely wife didn’t know what it was and threw it away, SMH
To answer the question directed to @ABushOfKush, all my plants are in containers in my back yard, 2ft x 2ft x 2ft. I can’t grow direct in ground because my back yard used to be a “duck pond” that was filled in eons ago. It’s also the low spot, both my neighbors, my back 2 1/2, and the house are all pointed to the swamp, plus the 2 natural springs that run threw the back 2 1/2 don’t help my cause. It NEVER gets dry back there, it will get so you can walk, but this year, it’s never even remotely gotten dry.
Let us know how the Hypochlorus acid works, as you’re spraying and attempting to get a hold on it and get your crop to the end.

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@Kavman @Kgrim
Here are some links I read. I’ll be interested to see if it’s as bad next year. Obviously it’s out there in nature and isn’t something new, perhaps this years weather pattern really favored the septoria. The plants I put out in June seem the most effected, when it was very hot and dry for a month.

https://extension.wvu.edu/lawn-gardening-pests/plant-disease/fruit-vegetable-diseases/septoria-leaf-spot

I have the plants back by my creek in pots. One of them has it real bad and is spreading it to the plants next to her.

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F#€£ Septoria!!! LOL


Got home last night, and the kid ms were at it!!!
Even though it appeared ugly as hell, it turned out ok, and trimmed up nicely. Definitely not the yield I should have gotten, by a long shot.
I’m using 5 year old soil out in the boxes, haven’t had any real issue until this year. I guess I’ll have to break down and get new soil for next years run. My issue is that my back yard NEVER gets dry, it stays wet, that’s why I cal it the swamp, because it literally is. I only had minor spots last year on 1 of 12 plants, and it wasn’t until late August when it showed up. I probably could have dealt with it better if it wasn’t so horrible with mosquitoes out there this year.
I stopped a couple days ago to talk to some old hunters that were out on State land, and they said it’s miserable out there, they packed it in. They only stayed out for about an hour. The poor one guy was bitin up so bad, he almost looked like a movie monster, LOL

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I will give those a read @ABushOfKush thsnks. @Kgrim sounds like a sweet spot you got there. I will keep updating. The more we learn about it the better we can predict it and fight that shit.

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I wish!!! LOL
The only nice thing about it, is that it camouflages my crop very well. Other than that, it’s a damn battle. Can’t grow directly in the ground, since Cannabis isn’t a swamp plant. I have to use 2 x 2 x 2 boxes in order to grow back there. Last year was banging, 2021 was banging, this year SUCKS!!!
If I would have gotten a bee keeper suit would’ve been the only way I could have went out there to try and handle it, but work has also been a bear this year on me. My area has been swamped since Halloween of last year, and I haven’t had much of a break.
I believe 2 things that would have helped, would have been Regalia in Veg, and if it still was rearing it’s ugly head, Zerotol thru till the end of flower.

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Gotcha brother thanks for the info.

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I fought PM hard last year, and went and bought a 4 gallon backpack fogger and all. It seemed the Zerotol helped keep the Septoria on the one plant that had it in check, it really stayed localized and didn’t spread, not like this year.
I discovered OG during an inter web search, and left RIU behind forever. Then discovered how sulphur eradicates PM instantly. Sprayed down the entire swamp area early in the season, and not one bit showed. But, once it became mosquito season, it was UNBEARABLE out there. I’ve never seen it this bad, a 15 second walk, and they were on you 50-60 deep, and flying around your head like a gnat swarm.
I really hope the hypochlorus acid works for you, as I’ll be getting a generator before next years run to have on hand for PM in flower.
I’m really interested to hear if it will keep it at bay or possibly even kill it.(Septoria)
I agree with you, that if we share what we are finding, those of us in the Mitten State can win the war with these damn biological issues!!!

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Chocolatina somewhat holding out still…November 1st she will be ready based on last year.


Cotton Candy Crunch looking a little less great. Very nice flowers so far but I think another week and the leaves will be gone…

What’s left on the Snake Venom…top shelf flower!

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Probably going to buck the Snake Venom into grocery bags and give them out to homeless in Lansing. Can’t see myself smoking it but there must be a pound of flower there.

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I thought that chocolatina was an 8 weeker? Nov 1. that has to be 10-11 weeks.

She is holding up really well. :sunglasses: :metal:

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About 9 weeks indoor. They don’t all start flowering at the same time outdoor :slightly_smiling_face:. Some flower at 16 hours of light, some at 13. She starts later.

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I think it (hypochlorous acid) works pretty well against it. I had it infest my plants, so I read up on it (never seen or heard of it before) so I started spraying. It seems to halt it, but the H.A. doesn’t linger, so it tends to come back. I spray (and now fog) every 3 -5 days, and pick off any leaves with septoria “eyes” on them.

The bonus with that regimen is I’ve only seen a trace of PM on 2 or 3 leaves on ALL my plants.

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As all of you Michiganders know it’s been a tough year weather wise. In all my years I have never seen a seed sprout inside the bud. If it’s damp enough to sprout a seed in a bud you’re in trouble.

wish I would have gotten the pic while in the bud but didn’t have my phone. But trust me it sprouted in a bud.

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Had that happen on a plant 2 years ago! A whole branch was sprouted

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