Accelerated air dehydration experiment and testing - a better quick dry method thanks to terploc bag

Alright, another 9 hrs in the bag, smells even stronger, however it will need to be left in the bag for at least another day or two to DEVELOP further for flavor. I can tell it’s getting there in flavor but wouldn’t be immediate for a flavor test. For a potency test yes it’s ready, and will have flavor more in the middle/end of a roll, but I AGREE using this if flavor is important to test, will need more time to sit in the bag. I’m putting the rest of it back in the bag, with oxygen absorber for 2 days, then will roll the rest, and report the results then. So for potency :+1: For flavor need a little patience but I suspect in 2 days it will be mostly there

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At least you’re not putting me down for trying, so I appreciate that :facepunch:

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“The road to success is paved with the hot asphalt of failure.”

…the analogy is weak but descriptive… :smile:

I’m always fiddling around trying things, once in a while you find something that makes it all worthwhile.

Cheers
G

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I’m perched on the edge of my seat dying to see how it smokes. It looks very nice fwiw

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Has a very nice odor that’s matching what’s air dried and then into jar, so it’s all encouraging. Waiting one more day. Stem broke, so that could be an indication it’s really close. Usually when you pull a bud off the stem with little tug, it’s burnable enough, a little wet but still stays lit. So tomorrow we’ll see. I’m anxious for this tiny piece :thinking:

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So, I think what’s happening now, is the oxygen absorber is finishing the drying, while curing. It’s shrunk more inside, so this could be a combination trick. I’m using the absorbent for mold protection, but I also think it’s also drawing air/moisture slowly. An oxygen absorbent pack may be part of this process to work.

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TEST 1

It’s TIME! I had to deal with a hot room today so unable to have my thoughts collected until it cooled down.

So roughly 72 hrs later

So, THIS does deliver a better quality of smoke for the time. More testing needs to be done, especially duration of time spent in dehydrator before putting it in the bag. I think this test was slightly too moist. Not enough time drying, however it has decent flavor already, palatable and not harsh. That little bud has messed me up :dizzy_face: big time, seems stronger than last time. Yes, this does work, but it needs more dialing in to find right drying times before putting it in the bag. The absorber is slow, but it will protect against mold. I suspect without the packet it would’ve caught it.

GRADE C NOT ENOUGH DRYING

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TEST 2

Now I’m going to see how an accelerated mid point air dried bud will smoke. I will FINISH the drying in the dehydrator on a 6 hr cycle per until crispy exterior, then into the bag to rehydrate and cure a bit, once it’s rehydrated I’ll test once at 24 hrs and then again at 72 hrs. So we’ll find out how many hours until it’s crispy dry, IF speeding up drying isn’t a noticeable sacrifice and if the terploc rehydrates for better pronounced flavors for a brief cure after.

4 days regular air dried and 3 hrs in the dehydrator gave this

which now has a crunchy exterior, so LESS time when given a partial air dry time. I’m gonna test a small piece now and put the rest of the nug in the bag. I’ll smoke it around this time tomorrow

SUCCESS the sample is EXACTLY like fully air dried bud. It broke up between my fingers. ALL flavor is present. So this tells me,YES acceleration can finish it, whatever the circumstances are for an individual. So this will be done inversely when I harvest another A, probably tomorrow. I’ll dry it to that mid point in the dehydrator, and then FINISH regular air dried to see how long it needs to finish and if it’s faster.

It’s TIME to test the bud again… @Habitt @AppalachianBiscuits

Has a developing familiarity to it now. Broke up nicely, more pliable than crumbly.

48 hrs later

••BETTER•• the first test had more PTK melon mixed with pine, now the melon has dissipated to be pine/mint. Hit stronger than last time. I don’t believe there was any degradation during dehydration for 3 hrs, so WITH Terploc you can rehydrate and get cure in the process after 24hrs. So YES you can safely speed drying up to begin cure faster. At higher temperatures has yet TBD, as with FRESH buds to threshold of degrading. IF not for Terploc I’d say maybe not, though I need to test WITHOUT to see if that’s a major factor in rehydration. My air dried buds finished last night anyway, but I’m doing rest in a bowl on top of the light and back in the bag cycle for the next week, so I can have it as ready as possible. So I proved those who said to me “you can’t do it” Oh yes I did :face_with_monocle::tada:

GRADE - B

72 hrs

Very strange, I enjoyed the smoke after 24 hrs in the bag but the 72 hr bag cure wasn’t good at all. I left it on my tray overnight and tried again, had better taste after airing out. I’m not sure what to make of this result.

GRADE D NOT AIRED ENOUGH AT TESTING

UPDATE I figured it out! The bud can’t be smoked immediately out of the grove bag. It needs to rest for awhile, it’s better as more air circulates on the piece for a few hrs, then it develops nicely.

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Interesting!
I have a very bad drying conditions during Summer:my temps are constantly 28-30° C and the humidity Just fluctuates between 50% and 70% during the day.
I can dry only in the tent.What are your advices based on your findings?Should I dry trim and let dry with leaves?
Usually I find my buds dry too quickly and also develop some budrot.

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Same. I’m a hillbilly without central air and I just can’t hit the cool numbers in the summer and the humidity has wild swings. Eventually I’ll work up the crawlspace as a root cellar but until then it’s the spiders domain.

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I think you could air dry as long as possible, then finish as I’m doing it now. Place buds in a large bowl, on top of light for 2-4 hrs, once drier, back into a Terploc and keep repeating until it’s of desired quality dryness and rehydrated. I prefer a wet trim to help faster drying.

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@OriginalDankmaster96 Thanks,so me and @AppalachianBiscuits can wet trim and let It hang to dry,then Place em buds together in a Bowl and start the progress of terplock.Only issues,I have no terploc avaible where I live.

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Well, you might get away with the jar and wet towel in the top cavity to rehydrate. I’ll probably need to try if hydration is exclusively to Terploc or simple jar and wet towel does the same the effect. I know these bags super hydrate, stuff I had in the fridge for 2 years bone dry pretty much, once put into the bag it bounced back w moisture within days. This is all a process to determine factors what works and what doesn’t, so it’s only starting. In fact I’m about to start the 3rd.

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TEST 3

Now I’ll dry these popcorn pieces to mid point, track the hours needed, then track the days to finish, I won’t cure once fully dry, I will smoke it.

Roughly 4 hrs later. Time stopped at 1:52 left.

Yes @420noob I have, it’s cooler than actual setting. I don’t know if I’d put it in at higher settings unless heat resistant gauge. But everything is still cool to touch. I have to go by that, but it’s clear it’s not adversely affected for short times. I don’t know about all the way yet, but I’ll determine that next after this, we’ll find out where it can be taken to in dryness.

Finally, about to try one nug that’s been drying 2.5 days now since being dehydrated

Another nice nug

Broke up nicely :+1:

Oh yeah, THIS worked like a charm. Just exactly like air dried finishes. Now this one turns out to be BEST No vegetal taste whatsoever. It’s PERFECT

GRADE - A

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Yes!!! For science!

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Always remeber IMG_20230715_165219
I love this worked well. Have you tried putting a hygrometer on dehydrator with pie tin and you’ll get a temp reading. Since there is no heat I’ll bet it is actually a bit cooler than room temp! Just a thought for science.lol

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TEST 4

2 popcorn pieces will now FULLY dry and be smoked afterwards.

Starting 1st 6 hr cycle now.

14 hrs later

A little green, but it has flavor and it’s smooth. NOT better than TEST 2 at 24 hrs, but ACTUALLY better than 1🤔 This tells me rehydration is a factor in bringing out more flavors later. Now I don’t know how a fully dried piece then rehydrated back will change this but, we shall find out as I only use one to roll. So I’ll put the smaller piece in the bag, and I’ll smoke that tomorrow at this time, around 1:30 EST.

GRADE C at 24 hrs

Had something weird going on with my taste buds yesterday so I backed off, however after the little piece airs out a bit from being in bag, I’ll be ready to report the results here.

At 72 hrs with an 1 hr to air out after taking out of the bag

Sample is exactly like an air dry finish. It’s EXTREMELY IMPORTANT to let it rest at least 1-2 hrs before smoking.

rule of thumbLONGER REST/AIR OUT = BETTER FLAVOR

GRADE A

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I posted this on the wrong thread. Lol
Should add hygrometer just to see output temp or should I say I’m curious what the air temp is under your pie tin.lmao

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:rofl: Did the CripXmas get you :crazy_face: Very insightful! May just get one of those Prestos and disconnect the heating element if that’s easy to do. Definitely not for a 350.00 multi air cooker. Nevertheless the lowest setting does work well regardless. Thanks for sharing brother, I appreciate it :facepunch:

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