Actually you get banned there for being the main source of the bickering… you just can’t help yourself. Your not a victim dude.
It should be obvious to anyone reading that Wally is as classy as they come… don’t start with him too please.
If everywhere you go there’s a problem, perhaps your the problem eh?
Thank you both for the feedback. I have a three pack of Haze X Kali China fems in the fridge.
I need to pick up more Ace haze packs. I read such great things about Aces haze strains and it seems like people consistently give positive reviews. I don’t see many people bashing Ace and I feel confident in my purchase.
I do have a five pack of the Ace OTH. I think I’m going to get a pack of Exotic Alchemy OTH and run them together for comparison.
I don’t know if I’ve argued several times with you or with Maha, today I don’t feel like it so let’s see if we can not argue at least here… LOL
Well, I don’t think I was bashing the line, I simply said what I think…
I don’t like what Nev.hz has become in recent years, but if you’ve followed my old posts you know that I’ve made some crosses with a male I found in a reproduction of Nev.hz taken in Amsterdam in 2004, the line is at f4, maybe more, there’s still work to do (and I never have time) but it’s more towards the Thai side of things…
For the rest, we have different ideas on many things (read A5, or Shanti work) so it’s better to avoid useless discussions, right? I’m here in peace 
The content in this thread should be about peoples experiences growing and smoking Haze and those closely related.
It always turns into a debate about the history of Haze.
I don’t give a shit. And I feel confident in saying most others give a shit either.
I don’t give a shit about internet talk about whose is better between Tom’s vs Ace’s or whoever.
Makes no sense. The only way to know is to grow and smoke.
And also @hempy I’m not bashing you but honestly man don’t you think you’ve beat this horse past dead. Now it’s time to bury it dont you think.
We get it that you want the history of Haze to be correct as far as you know it. But not everyone is gonna agree with you. Whether you are correct or not. And why would you care.
Grow that shit smoke that shit and report on that shit.
Knowing the history doesn’t make a plant good. It’s either good or it isn’t.
What exactly are you referring too, the company or the seed stock? My THH from Cricket and Cicadas used “old positronics” gear. And THH from TH himself is from “Old positronics” stock. As I type this I’m realizing you must mean the company, belay my last
Hapi
Out of the handful of guys I named, which one is my idol? I didn’t realize I had one. You joined, what…two days ago? Post some pics if you’d like me to take you at all seriously.
Yes…old Positronics from the reproductions done by Tom Hill. He doesn’t seem to jive with them being called Tom Hill Haze, so I revert back to where he started. Nothing but respect for Tom and I will happily be sifting through his latest Positronic repros hopefully for years to come. Likewise, I’ll happily grow Maha’s work, Ace, Seedsman, etc. etc. Proof is always in the plant…not necessarily in the hand that bred the plant.
I have been growing Ace gear for years. Mostly very positive outcomes. If you are outdoors and have a long growing season, the OTH can produce very nice plants as you can see in my pictures posted in response 
Unfortunately I can only grow indoors. I will try to wrangle that OTH in to submission. Lol
I currently have a few Ace plants going. I have six Panama just in flower about a week ago.
Two Zamaldeilca fems about two weeks old seedlings.
Just popped two fem Panama X Bangi Haze
So yeah I’m going to probably cross the OTH to something sativa to make it a little more manageable.
That’s no easy task, but it can be done. You may wish trying one of the Ace OTH hybrids for better indoor outcome. This OTH x A5 is rocking outside…but it seems like it would manage indoors.
…or try Maha’s gear as that seems his intent. To give you strong Thai like effects making Tom’s Posi repros more manageable indoors.
Beautiful plants.
I keep reading about the Ace A5 crosses and really want to buy some. So many choices.
And I plan on picking up some Maha genetics in the future for sure.
And Colorado Sativa and Doc D and Exotic Alchemy and OSBA and …. You get the picture lol
Well grown indoors!
Was haze19 an OH x Sk1 cross?
This is Oldskool Haze (OHz x Sk#1) 35+ years old cutting, grew the S1 from this one.
Smokes like Haze, but the yield is from the Skunk side.
Wow wow beautiful work.
Amen Brother , well said . One of these days we’ll figure out we’re all in the same boat literally & figuratively . We all LOVE weed . I hear you about being lucky enough & free enough to let equatorials flourish outdoors . Still behind closed doors here in FL . Have watched your grows on both places with interest .
Good on yew Mate…
Is that from R&D or the Green #19 ( OTH ) x A5 ?
