No it was 4 from 20 if you include the males.
There were some good plants still in the other 16.
The first F2s i ran i found 2 fem keepers and 1 male from 20 and i made F3s.
The last F2s i managed to germinate from 100s and 100s gave me 13 seedlings and 9 survived from those 9 i found two exceptional females and two males.
I just harvested 1 at a few days short of 19 weeks the other fem is still going.
The F3s throw both HzC and hzA types.
The racy roller coaster high that some call the acid high comes from the HzA side its exactly like a Thai high i know this as its like my Thai in affect and the description Nevil had told me him self.
The one you call paranoia type i call the Nasa Rocket sled high it just comes at you then 30 min later backs of to a real strong high thats classic Colombian.
A friend grew NH he bought from MrNice in 2019 he said they were good and sativa framed huge plants.
For the record i believe you didn’t have a positive experience is it possible you had the wrong seed sent ?
I don’t think so, because we bought several packets, and the plants were all the same, the packets were original, white and blue (or perhaps silver and blue) and the seeds were in straws, unlike those bought at auctions which arrived in plastic containers. , without packaging.
They looked like Nl5hz, but I bought their 5hzC at auction, and I can tell you that it is better (in fact I used it for a cross)…
Obviously I’m not saying they were crap, they just weren’t like the version from 15 years earlier (my friend liked them)
They be the Silver and Blue packs and if you grew the NH all those years ago and then didn’t see the same now that clearly is odd the plants should be long long flowering and look like a pure sativa.
That is the opposite to what my friend saw grow out.
Thais with clear highs won’t make you paranoia. Not in Thailand, not 40 years ago, also not with low tolerance. That’s the muddy Colombians and the dutch hybrids that do.
Positronics Haze could have been Haze#19 x NL open polinated by Tom Hill when THH has same kind of effect as NH, same frost as NL, more indica growth than NH and than all the old indica dominant dutch NL#5Haze clones.
Tom Hill said Haze does flower with 14 hours lights on. Can his Haze be Thai when in Thailand the longest day of the year has only 13 hours of day light?
Sorry , but I don’t agree, I have found paranoid phenos in Thai weed (both from Isaan and Hmong), South Africa, Senegal, Kerala, Jamaican, also in Copalita Oaxaca one time…
Obviously I speak for myself, maybe others have different experiences…
I think it also depends on the person…
Despite the description of the strain, I have never found paranoid or terrifying weed in Nl5hz, great weed yes, and it is one of my favorite hibrids…
If THH seeds from resellers are all knockoffs like Tom Hill said. His THH is a knockoff of Positronics too and he should just be quiet as reseller of knockoffs.
It’s written in your screenshot, that Original Haze requires 13 hours darkness, but Tom Hill said “Bullshit, Haze flowers with 14 hours lights on!”.
Then we know exactly which one of the two Positronics Hazes he bought and we have finally cleared it up.
I would advise anyone who doubts the authenticity of THH to grow it out for yourself first before making any opinions about it
The THH I grew was a nightmare to keep tame indoors… Massive tall bushes. I couldn’t grow them properly indoors. Some were 8’ tall. I never found anything super potent in any haze yet. How we ea interpret potency can be very different. For us anything that tests at least 20% is good. Getting the terpenes/Chemotype right is much harder to do.
The male I selected for pollen and the Female bushes… These seeds came from Madmac. I have a 100 pack from Tom so ill see if theirs any difference.
That’s a very fluffy pheno. It looks like a pure sativa to me. Haze requires a cool environment indoors or it will foxtail like crazy and not finish completely
My screenshots are from 2022, have you even been through the thread? it goes back to 2020. Tom in thread, encourage and backs Bobhemphill from cricket and Cicadas, I would screenshot but it’s in the thread a;lready. And describes the Haze he bought, he points to paper (screenchot) of haze he has. Demonstration beats conversation, grow some out https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxLJVbBu47XkizDgUYas6dhYvt2TZqkmkY?si=3U5RIZPSeJNKAeK1
seedsman ohaze * (seedsman ohaze/oh90) Starting bloom, today 12 hours of light from sunrise to sunset, the days are finally getting shorter.
Your correct in that the Haze dont like extream heat in flower but they will act like Hammers even in threw winter.
Nice mike their finally showing you their sex looking real nice.
If it was the green OTH x Meao Thai, that’s a potent cold and steely effect IMO. I liked it with a very good 3+ month cure. I still have a few seeds and a few more even of the F1’s and F3’s of the purple OTH x Meao Thai. I really should repro through an OP as that’s a cross long gone in almost all circles.
uh this is rare
Yep idem for Karel’s Haze.Not only Nevil got seeds from Sam, but also Karel from SSSC.
