Moving to Spain would be lovely I think you can have 4 there anyway, but reassuring to know your experience with it and certainly puts me at ease
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If you are interested in an extra line of security Fantasy Island may be the place for you.
Check us out if you have the time, you may never leave. 
Seed vultures need not apply.
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I know I digress, but the title of this thread has had me singing this all day. Sorry 
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Your allowed 4 as a weed.
The numbers I said were associated with the uk buddy.
Spain nearly killed me. Drink and drugs daily for 6 solid years has its effects on your health. If I’d not left I’d be dead now 100%
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Yep, all they have to do is use different browser. Can probably use a private tab in one browser multiple times. Someone would have to verify this.
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Thanks. The line I have is one I bred from good Mexican bag seed in the early '90s. I am still in the process of breeding out the hermaphroditism, but once it is ready I will hit you up over there. I am in a legal state, and seeds are legal in the US so I am not super worried about security but I want to get it into as many hands as possible because I know people want it, and I don’t want the line to vanish when I’m gone (which will hopefully not be anytime soon).
I think people holding their lines too tightly is counterproductive in the end. Eventually they pass away and then there is nobody left to grow their wonderful strain.
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Very interesting. 
Something common or so I hear.
The security I speak of is when folks hear you have something new like that they see dollar signs and may run off and sell the beans you so freely give away.
Fantasy Island works a bit like a screening process and has been very effective at keeping out those who intend to deceive and or make money from free seeds.
In other words, if they are on the island you can be dam sure they will not run off and sell your beans on Instagram like some have done here already.
Now we did take on some very new people recently and I do keep a very close eye on those folks, the rest I don’t even have to think about.
If you are on the island you are family but you are expected to act accordingly.
You need to hold yourself to a higher standard.
We all share the island as equals.
Yes there are people on the island I have had disagreement with.
Not on the island but elsewhere on OG, we remember to have respect for one another even though we may have opposing opinions at any given time.
In life we don’t always have to agree, but we should discuss things like adults with hopes of some form of a solution.
We are a pretty tight knit group of very different individuals all doing our own thing with…
1 common goal.
How can we help one another out?
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That’s too bad. Sharing is caring.
Disagreeing with you isn’t abandoning you, we’re adults.
Who’s integrity are you questioning?
The scammers? They have none.
I like making seeds and giving them away.
I think there should be no such thing as thousand dollar packs, these genetics should be shared and spread far and wide and not hoarded.
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Its all about integrity. Without it. Who’s to say a strain is what someone says it is. Or a cut. So much time goes into growing. Without integrity. We have nothing.
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I am glad to see I am not the only one who sees this. 
It does not work with me, I have very thick skin. 
As you have seen in this thread, it seems to give me energy… 
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not in a good way, but that is just my opinion. by all means carry on.
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Right there is nothing healthy about deep diving manic behavior.
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Foreigner: he gives you wings.
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Agreed! 
I do not dispute that.
I meant very few came to his aid, very few were helpful.
Some people told him to go home your barking up the wrong tree.
To me, if you don’t help someone in their time of need you are by default `abandoning them.
Maybe it was a poor choice of words.
It was a bit dramatic…LOL
I agree, I do my best to help that cause when I can. 
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They hated vladimir konstantinov too but he was very good at what he did. 
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In the end, there will always be some scammers, some haters, some … Everything else, but the last one pretending to get rid of all of them was Hitler …
Seriously, this topic should have been limited to members, isn’t it?
Edit : thanks to all who are offering to send me seeds, but I won’t give my address, you will understand I hope
This thread will be closing tonight. Finish up with any final comments.
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In before close.
Don’t forget to check out the spare bathroom thread!
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This is a very and it brings a real-life scenario to my mind.
I happen to have a pack of high dollar seed like you speak of.
I plan on making F2’s of this to share with people.
They are worth probably $100 a pack on the open market.
I give out 100 packs, then I hear about a bunch of them for sale on Instagram.
Am I wrong for questioning if I should give out more of these seeds?
Should I start selling them?
Why not others are making money from something I took the time and effort to make.
Ok so I learned my lesson, not to give my seeds away to just anyone.
How narrow should I make my give away?
Close family and friends only?
That cut off quite a few.
This is what I refer to as pulling back.
If I ask you to hold out your hand and hit it with a hammer, the next time I ask you to hold out your hand you will pull back.
It makes perfect logical sense. 
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