Any way to reduce consumption without reducing relief?

I might actually die if I do that, shit. I’m malnourished as it is. I’m not losing weight really, so I assume everything is ok, but I have zero energy. I barely have an appetite and most things I can’t stomach. I’m honestly not sure why the Drs not more concerned, but it’s whatever. I have an appointment soon enough. I’m going to be tapering down in the mean time, until I know I can do it safely.

When I say I have no appetite I mean it. I can’t will myself to eat even. I suppose I could be force fed, we haven’t tried. I will get occasional hunger pangs and nausea. I can choke down select things then if I have a bowl or two before the meal. (One right before and one right after). But yeah… I definitely don’t need to discourage my appetite right now.

Well thats just me. That might not happen to you.

The cool thing is, if you find it’s fucking with your appetite, smoke up haha. Then go eat something!

Honestly, even if you do the post 48 hr abstinence stuff, as in for a few days, only dose till you barely feel it, and only do it 3 times a day, after a few days that does a decent job by itself. Nothing like the real deal, but if you smoke once per meal and do that for 6 days, I’m sure it’ll have a positive effect.

Then if that wasn’t too painful, just do it once per month. Every last week of the month is the 3/day schedule. Should be a good way of managing tolerance without ever abstaining.

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You know, you’re right. I need to stop worrying about it so much and just do it. Worst case scenario? I bail and light up.

But uh… tomorrow. Lol. I already smoked half the day, might as well finish.

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Y’know, I’m always supportive of folks going on T-breaks, or even abstaining all together.

But I’m more supportive of toking up!

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As a basically life long patient of the western medical world, I have always had a very serious relationship with drugs, I sometimes forget that they aren’t magic. Going off any single one of my meds won’t hurt me, it’ll just make life unpleasant. Unpleasant for two days for a month of starting over? Duh, just take the break. “But I’d never stop my other medications like that” yeah well, I also have been taking the same dose for year on them all.

I will however resist the urge to just burn the whole stash tonight, lol. Let’s start that break without a hangover.

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Definitely make sure you have some in reserve. Needing to medicate but not being able to isn’t fun.

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I find that bubblehash goes further than flower dollar for dollar.

I find smoking the smallest piece of hash more satisfying than a big joint. Like match head small. To the point where I barely smoke flower anymore.

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I haven’t actually had bubble hash. I top off a bowl with some live concentrate though, when I want a nice kick. I actually wish they had bubble at the dispensary, I’d give it a go. Sounds right up my alley. Will have to make some sometime.

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Update on the DMSO- I don’t notice much. I mixed it in a few ratios, and just straight. I don’t notice effect of the DMSO itself, but it did deliver the RSO. Now the RSO dose was about twice what I take sublingually. I’m not feeling twice the effect. It’s hard to say exactly what I’m feeling subjectively so take my experience for what it’s worth. Pain relief is about null. I don’t typically get pain relief from RSO or any cannabis, was hoping this would be an option. I feel couch locked for sure (RSO was a Mag Landrace fwiw) and kinda just floating along by default. Mentally it’s all good when I’m focusing, like righting this, but it doesn’t really have the desired effect. I applied 30 minutes ago, effect was quick, so quick I didn’t notice. Hard to say but defiantly under 5 minutes, which I can’t even get the RSO to dissolve by then. I have noticed I get fairly diminishing returns on all cannabis highs, so perhaps I have a unique metabolism. I was seeking quick distribution to the blood stream for RSO and I guess I did find it technically. If anyone has experience with DMSO feel free to get in touch, I’m quite curious about its benefits. I’m not noticing anything really, aside from it did dissolve the RSO fairly readily and it certainly delivered it well. I experienced very slight redness and discomfort at application site, but reaction is minor and probably adding a small amount of aloe vera as recommended would solve it.

*Update 1hr later. Holy fuck, I amend my statement. Defiantly a double dose. Noticed after staring into oblivion for a bit. So quite effective. Would recommend someone else’s recipe including aloe vera, as far as portions I would only use as much DSMO as it takes to dissolve the concentrate next time, it was too thin and ran all over the place. Aloe will help thicken it and alleviate minor irritation at application site.

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edibles!!! Make the yourself and you can make 500mg gummies or whatever you want.

Wow, DMSO works really well, thought I would try it too, smashed.
Took some of my extract (leftover trash extracted with ethanol, mostly leaf). Usual dose that I would smoke, but on the back of my hand(1-2ml 99% DMSO and some aloe), it absolutely works, maybe more than smoking it, quite nice.
A little more heady than smoking even tho its well decarbed.

Way headier, lol, and super smooth. Literally did not notice slipping into oblivion. I’ll defiantly use it again, I put mine in a roller bottle. I may add something to it to bulk it out more, I don’t know. It doesn’t offer the exact same immediate relief and head rush you get with inhalation- it just kinda of is there. It kinda kinda itches, and then, Oh you’re high now.

Did you get any pain relief out of it? How did it compare to inhalation?

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Yes, its sneaky, have mine in a dropper bottle. Just had a little lie down :smiley:
You do miss that comforting effect you get from smoking, kind of fools you, its a straight linear climb over an hour or so.

Do feel a nice numbing/float body effect now, was rushing hard for the last hour, much better now.
One day I will try it with some really heavy Indica. This extract was a failed crop taken in early flower.
Very handy being able to add a few drops on skin and being high, so weird.

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I’ve been considering some outpatient therapy, which is in Wisconsin, so no love for MMJ, hoping this will be easy to sneak in and use as needed. I found it evaporates better out of the roller bottle, it puts a layer thin enough it evaps after than the dropper, IMO. I do wonder why it’s so sneaky. Not that I recommend it, but you could probably just run this on someone asleep and wake them up half an hour later and really fuck with them, lol. If I didn’t know I took it I would’ve thought my brain just broke. There’s a strong disassociation and your thought stream is all over. This was probably cause I used too much, will have to try in more moderate doses. I did notice I had to run my bottle under hot water to get the DMSO to really dissolve the RSO, and it seems to be separating a bit. But if you’re making small batches, what the hey. I read some apply DMSO, then RSO in top of that. Cover all with a cotton pad… I don’t know how I feel about the pad. Would be concerned if it would soak up some of the RSO, as well as what contaminants may enter the bloodstream via the DMSO. Maybe they’re using sterile pads, so it’s not an issue. If I ever get around to perfecting a formula, I’ll make sure to make a how to. It’s on the back burner for a bit though.

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Guaranteed you’ll be able to sneak in a bottle of “lotion” unless they actually test you.

Mine dissolved just fine without heating, although I did use a magnetic stirrer.
0.5ml of extract to maybe 5ml of DMSO, dissolved in 5-10min.

I hope your roller bottle is glass, might just be overly cautious but I certainly feel more comfortable with glass everything over any plastics.
Mine seems to stay in solution really well, I add the aloe on the skin afterwards. ~15min for a good layer on the skin to be absorbed, then i put some aloe to seal it and reduce irritation.

This could be used for some tricks, squirt it in some face cream or liniment, straight evil.

Not too concerned about sterile pads etc, just wash n wipe the spot and you should be good.

Yes! Lotion is perfect, I’ll have to find a little travel size bottle of something name brand, and look up some safe lotion recipe, or maybe coconut oil with some safe fragrance. I have some essential oils here, but I’m not so sure about absorbing them directly to the blood stream.

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Mixing it with aloe is probably easiest, many brands use a green dye in theirs. It wont look too weird with that slightly greenish tinge from the extract.

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I find mind the look as much as the smell- I’m not sure how far away you can smell it, but when I put it in my wrists the whole room smelled like flowers (I had used apparently a not entirely clean container the first time so the smell was a little extra. I wiped it out with ethanol, but oh well. I’m thinking adding something like rosemary to mask the scent. I would assume since it’s good grade it’s relatively safe… but directly to the blood stream? Eh… honestly DMSO shows lots of potential as a delivery agent but you’d need access and knowledge of medicine beyond my own for sure. If you’re going to try it be mindful that it WILL pull anything it touches that’s small enough to pass through the skin. So any ingredients will be in your bloodstream, taking a pass before even being filtered at all by the liver. This is great for medicine, but leaves you exposed to dangerous things. Clean the application site well, do not touch anything onto the application site until the solution has absorbed completely, then it’s safe again.

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And yeah… the vial is glass, the cap and roller are sadly plastic. I myself don’t love it, but eh.

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Rosemary sounds good. Strong scents mask better but wont be as pleasant, like peppermint.

As far as safety and ingredients, made everything including the ethanol extract and the plants, pretty secure in what they contain, only wildcard is the aloe, smells really pure and looks it, bought direct from plantation. Got some aloe growing on my desk for future use.
Of course, caution is always sound advice, wouldn’t hurt to do a double check and read up even more.
After years of using DMSO on myself and other people I am pretty comfortable with it, can understand the initial hesitation, I give the same basic advice, wipe it clean and don’t handle any toxic materials for a while, including perfumes and mass produced items like lotions etc.
I dont give out DMSO mixes much anymore, don’t make enough money on them and people are people, they tend to not understand or listen very well. More risk than reward, also it itches so people tend not to appreciate the actual benefits, they just dislike the initial sensation and therefor its not for them.

Nice, your roller, the plastic part isnt in the fluid, much better.

Just made a vape liquid, wouldnt you know a PG/VG ready made liquid dissolves it really well, heat to 60-70C and poff it disappears.
Tobacco flavour with a dash of nic and a serious helping of extract, very nice :slight_smile:
Much more like a regular smoke compared to DMSO.