they’ve got me on a thyroid pill for my hypothyroidism, hypo meaning low.
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Is it working for you? How do you feel since starting it?
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everyone’s doing it so i will too.
Some, if not most, doctors are dipshits. 
Yep.
2nd & 3rd opinion & wikipedia 
of course i’m not insenstive to the 
factor so we all understand if the budget/healthcare can’t swing it.
shit, i don’t even consider going to my doctor-- he’s a moron & should’ve been a sports journalist. 
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Anxiety often comes out of no where. You between the ages of 40 and 60? Thats when your hormones change, as testosterone drops other hormones increase. I have never had ANY issues with anxiety until I hit 40 then boom!
During panic attacks sometimes my body would get real hot like I was on fire, dizzy spells, complete loss of appetite. Thats primarily why I stick to indica , too sativa and I get anxiety attacks.
Anxiety has nothing to do with physical health. I do personal training and compete in physique contest. Anxiety can extremely bad and cause lots of physical and emotional damage. Its no joke
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I am shaving more often, was down to 1 maybe 2 times a week, im at a solid 3 now.
And I think its helped calm me down
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I found a pretty good doctor hes going thru me with a fine toothed comb.
Drugs in general mess with your pituitary, they’ve got to its the main engine in your body and everything goes to that.
It controls virtually everything.
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I definitely agree with most of that, but in many cases anxiety has to do with physical health. How would a deficiency in a neurotransmitter not be related to physical health?
Also if anxiety is not related to physical health (and therefore mental) how would a pill ever help?
I’m not denying these medications help many people, and I’m glad it works for you but I’d like to be confident there isn’t something else going on before starting a medication I’ll likely have to take for the rest of my life.
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That’s funny I didn’t know that could be a thyroid thing too. I’m not sure if that’s a good thing though I’m lazy and hate shaving haha
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Yeah I was getting kinda used to it, I actually thought it mightve been that bit of Cherokee blood in me.
And im not positive on that facial hair thing, coincidental, I don’t believe in that word.
Just all happened at the same time.
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Imagine how I feel…i shave everything head to toe 2x per week, legs , arms, chest stomach. Then i shave my head and face every other day.
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I don’t have any experience with thyroid stuff, but digestive issues can definitely manifest in a lot of the problems you are having. I have dealt with IBS for years. One year, I was having really bad insomnia for a long time. I thought it was caused by anxiety, because I would get really spun up when I tried to sleep… feeling jittery like I was over-caffeinated.
Believe it or not, it was actually GERD, which caused a rapid heart rate and awake feeling. I hadn’t even realized it, because I had learned to suppress my thoughts about all of my stomach problems from the IBS. All of it tied back to my gut microbiome, something that doctors know very little about. So despite going to the doctor a million times, I really wasn’t getting anywhere.
Anyway, because you are having digestive issues, I wouldn’t ignore them as being a possible cause either. Next time you have anxiety, maybe think about how your stomach feels too. Perhaps try popping a proton pump inhibitor (PPI) and see what happens. I wouldn’t personally take a PPI for an extended period of time, but it might help you to deduce what’s what. Now, if I start having problems, I go on a supplement protocol followed by homemade yogurt to fix it. Sounds crazy, but simple yeast overgrowth can also cause a lot of the problems you’re having and your gut microbiome can definitely turn on a dime after sickness or antibiotics, and it’s difficult to recover.
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What test did they do to evaluate your thyroid status?
In the US, “general practice” doctors typically order a simple thyroid test that’s not particularly helpful in diagnosis unless your results are well out of range, then when they see that your results are “nominal” they consider that the end of the matter and declare you perfectly healthy.
The fact is that your results on that test can be nominal and you can still be experiencing symptoms, and further testing of T3, T4, TSH, and their relative ratios can reveal issues that their “first line” test doesn’t.
Get a second opinion. Read about thyroid testing, and why the test you were given may not be the complete picture, both for your own edification and to have an argument for your doctor about why further testing is warranted.
It may not be a thyroid problem at all, but you can’t know that for certain yet, and even excluding that problem would be valuable information and a further step towards a correct diagnosis.
Best of luck. I know the struggle 
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Holy shit lol are you a swimmer or just some type of model? 
@lefthandseeds i also went to a naturopath who diagnosed me with ‘leaky gut’ which I at first laughed off as quackery until I read about malabsorption issues which are very real. I almost certainly messed my digestive system up with 20 years of crushing booze lol. I’ve been eating accordingly ever since and it has helped in many ways
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Yes exactly, these tests are notoriously uninformative.
Anyways I went back and looked at my numbers and my TSH was 0.38 which is below the thyroid associations low limit of 0.4 for hyperthyroidism. Some doctors use less than 0.5 as the standard, and some even say below 1.0 is questionable.
So ya…it’s looking like I’m back to thyroid and I’m also an idiot lol.i don’t know how I didn’t catch that the first time or how the doctor didn’t see that as cause to let me go to an endo just to be sure.
I will get my ass back to a doctor with some documentation in hand this time and hopefully get this sorted with a specialist. Thanks for the encouragement and advice everybody, maybe I’m not (that) crazy after all! 
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What units are they using for that test? I’m just curious, as this was my most recent TSH result, and I’m curious if it’s the same:
For what it’s worth, I’m near the low end of “nominal” for TSH, but that doesn’t mean everything is perfectly normal 
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Oh, it’s real. And can be pretty serious, and pathologically (lol) hard to correlate with a broad spectrum of symptoms.
Better diet will do wonders to help resolve it, and this patented ( Zinc-L-Carnosine Complex ) supplement is proven to actually help heal the gut lining: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0035BYOSA
ZnC increased the migration and proliferation colonic epithelial cells in vitro, suggesting that it may promote gastric healing in part by interacting with epithelial cells lining the GI tract.
Zinc carnosine (ZnC) is a synthetic molecule where zinc and carnosine are linked together in a 1:1 ratio, forming a polymer-structure. The compound has been used for some time in Japan as a treatment for gastritis and gastric ulcers, and studies have shown that ZnC is up to 3 times more effective at promoting gastric integrity than either zinc or carnosine alone.[35] When the integrity of gastrointestinal (GI) tract becomes compromised, intestinal permeability increases which may allow the passage of harmful substances into the blood stream. This can cause an immune response, leading to systemic inflammation. Although not an official medical term, conditions associated with increased intestinal permeability have been termed ‘leaky gut’ syndrome, which can be caused by food allergies, certain medications and inflammatory bowel disease.[36]
ZnC increased the migration and proliferation colonic epithelial cells in vitro, suggesting that it may promote gastric healing in part by interacting with epithelial cells lining the GI tract.
To examine the ability of ZnC to promote gastric healing in vivo, researchers also examined the effects of ZnC in a rat model for gastric damage. Rats were given ZnC (1 or 5 mg/mL) or a placebo prior to 20 mg/kg indomethacin, a non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drug (NSAID) that causes gastric damage. ZnC substantially decreased markers for gastric damage at both 1 and 5 mg/ml, with the 5 mg/ml dose being more effective.[37]
The ability of ZnC to prevent small intestinal damage by indomethacin was also evaluated in mice. In control mice that received indomethacin alone, substantial shortening of intestinal villi were noted, along with decreased intestinal weight, both indicators of damage. In contrast, ZnC treatment reduced indomethacin-induced villus-shortening and increased intestinal weight, indicating a protective effect.
ZnC has demonstrated significant protective effects in animal models of NSAID- induced GI injury.
To validate the results obtained with in vitro cell culture studies and animal models, 10 healthy human volunteers were recruited in a double-blind, randomized and placebo controlled study. To assess the effects of ZnC on indomethacin-induced increases in intestinal permeability, participants drank a sugar solution containing a mixture of mono-and disaccharides. Since disaccharides are larger and are not easily absorbed in the GI tract by passive diffusion, an increase in urine disaccharide to monosaccharide ratio indicates increased intestinal permeability due to damage. Subjects took either ZnC (37.5 mg twice daily) or a placebo for seven days, with indomethacin for the last 5 days. When taking a placebo, subjects showed a 3x increase in disaccharide ratio, indicating a substantial increase in intestinal permeability from the indomethacin-induced injury. In contrast, subjects taking ZnC showed no significant increase in disaccharide ratio, indicating a strong protective effect on the gut mucosa.[37]
ZnC has been shown to prevent increased intestinal permeability from NSAID-induced injury in humans.
Evidence for this effect is strong, having been demonstrated in a randomized, double blinded and placebo controlled trial with a crossover design. The effective dose of ZnC in this study (37.5 mg twice/day) is easily achievable with over the counter supplements.
Zinc is also good for anxiety and thyroid issues, fwiw. https://examine.com/supplements/zinc/
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Mine says it’s in mlU/L, whatever the hell that is lol. Ya I think that is low relative to the mean. If you start reading about this stuff you’ll go down one hell of a rabbit hole, I did it last year and finally stopped because I took the doctors word for it and it was driving me crazy.
A few things… firstly the numbers are all relative. What might be ok for one person could easily be low/high for another. Secondly TSH and even free t3/t4 aren’t great standards of measurement and lots of people test within the range for those but still have issues that resolve once treated, particularly with Hashimoto’s. Third, since you’re pretty low on the scale you might want to look at your iodine consumption.
I forgot to mention that before this happened I had been taking an iodine supplement daily for a few months. Why? Because I’m a moron and read online how it makes some people feel amazing. After my initial incident I read about some of this stuff and stopped taking the iodine just to be safe. A few weeks later I took it as a fun experiment and everything came back within hours, including the mania/psychosis…durr
I remember reading a quote from some specialist that for some people (particularly graves and some forms of Hashimoto’s) taking iodine is like 'throwing gasoline on a fire’s so that’s fun. If you eat alot of seafood, kelp or iodized salt you may want to consider cutting back or eliminating them for a bit to see if it makes a difference.
Disclaimer: I am obviously not even close to a doctor and am just some stoner online lol
Also read about Dr Ray peat and his thoughts on the thyroid. Once they changed the standard for testing to TSH the rates of hypothyroid diagnoses went from as high as 30% of people to like 3%. He believes thyroid issues can never be diagnosed with blood tests alone and only by measuring metabolic rate (temperature and CO2 output). He’s an eccentric but has some interesting thoughts on things for sure.
Looks like I’ve got some more reading to do.
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That’s interesting, thanks. I tried generic Walmart zinc for a while (along with a billion other vitamin/supplements) but didn’t notice a difference from any of them so finally stopped taking them all.
I will say taking a b50 complex for a couple months made me feel worse and i didn’t figure that out until I stopped.
Another interesting subject for people with anxiety issues is MTHFR gene abnormalities. Basically some people with this can’t convert folic acid (synthetic folate) properly and it builds in their system causing homocysteine to spike which leads to…you guessed it… anxiety and other issues.
It was treated as fringe quackery for years but has now hit the mainstream. Some psychiatrists now will give patients a cheek swab test for this genetic mutation and if positive they’ll put them on high doses of methylfolate which miraculously cures anxiety and panic issues for many.
I do have the abnormality, I checked using my ancestry DNA info. Unfortunately methylfolate didn’t seem to have an effect, but I think the high doses of folic acid in my cheapo B complex might have been fucking with me as they accumulated.
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Ugh. MTHFR is a motherfucker. I have several related polymorphisms
Out of time, but I have lots to say on that subject. You gotta be very careful with your B vitamins, though.
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Hi @beacher I’m so sorry for your health issues.
I have suffered from anxiety for many years with more stable stages and others with great crises.
I would recommend that you ask for a second or third opinion as soon as possible. Just as there are mediocre doctors there are also great doctors who can help you with a diagnosis.
I hope you are well very soon.
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