That was the plan…
This is the last he mentioned them, 9 days ago. I’d love to see this blast from the past!!
Anyone interested in splitting a breeders pack of 50xOriginal Haze & 50xOriginal Skunk No.1 while it’s on-sale? I don’t need 50 of each, I’d be happy with 25 of each and finding someone to split the other half with.
Alright…I’m looking forward to seeing what you find in these.
So who got the limited rks drop ?
@ToddMcC realy sad I missed this one got a extra pack by any chance or plan to make more ?
I haven’t seen anyone growing the RKS seeds from ags yet. Very curious to how they are growing out
Finally some good news in the email today!
Todd:
“If you pre-ordered NL#5, you will be receiving an email later this week about when they will be shipping.”
Good morning everyone,
So, the other night I had a customer send me an email with some photos of mine of Original Skunk #1 posted on a seed companies website advertising their “Original Skunk #1” seeds for sale and I had the short interaction below with them on twitter.
Some guy named Ken at seedbank.co, seems to think it is perfectly OK to pay a “3rd party company” to steal photos so they can advertise whatever bs seeds they’re selling. Clearly, on his “seed king” website, what you see is NOT what you get.
Any information about Ken or his seed bank would be greatly appreciated.
I know that this is been going on in the cannabis seed industry for quite a while, but I would love some input from you about how you feel about this.
Because I write for GROW magazine, I’m going to do an article about this flat-out deceit.
Personally, I don’t think it’s cool and I do not put photos with seeds if I don’t have the exact photos of those seeds in flower.
How do you as seed buyers, feel about seed companies stealing photos and claiming them as photos of the seeds that they are selling?
Have you caught seed sellers using your photos to sell their seeds without your permission?
Have you purchased seeds that you grew out and looked nothing like the images that they were advertised with?
I appreciate everybody’s opinion on this, and I hope everybody had a very happy 420 holiday.
Also PS:
NL#5 orders will be going out later than expected, if you got an NL#5 pre-order, you will be getting an email with an update about what’s up in the next few daze.
If you were one of the many who picked up seeds this week from me, a sincere thank you.
That sounds like the seed biz, shady as hell. Maybe put some watermarks on your pics to deter thieves. Your website name across the pic or something like that. Happy 420.
That’s about the only way I know of. It would be cool if they could have an invisible watermark that would require a password to move or manipulate.
I don’t get the opportunity to buy seeds very often but I would never buy from a generic seed seller to begin with. If I couldn’t speak with the seller or breeder, I would be shy about going by a pic alone. But I can see the lure as when I first got back into growing I couldn’t believe all of the cool pics and seed banks and it took me geting on another forum to get some knowledge.
I was going to be a photographer, too, but life got in the way before I finished school. But I did sell pics to magazines of windsurfing related life around Cape Hatteras. I would be livid at a theft of property, especially when using it to make money. That’s against the law.
Thanks for the info. I hope newer growers realize the problem exists or I should say persists. I have heard others say the same thing. Did he get it from your website or a forum? Just curious… the internet, anyway. What a piece of crap, though. I would want to know who the agent is… or third party biz… probably Ken. Best vibes in the jungle. That sux. peace
Straight up I think its lame. If you’re a breeder I’d assume you could grow fairly well. Why wouldn’t you use your own pics? I’ve never been ashamed of my plants. You could post your own and add other people’s work with the plant. I wouldn’t want to buy seeds from a guy that can’t grow well enough to share his grow pics
…because some of those shops don’t actually grow anything. They buy bulk seed, label it, and resell it at profit. Some have been more successful than others.
It sucks when breeders do that. Like WTF get a company to get pics to advertise your seeds. If that isn’t blatant false advertising besides the other issue of stealing the pics I don’t know what is.
That shits been going on for years. I’m sure there’s been a few broke legs over it or worst.
As legalization happens. So doesn’t the want to cash in, once a Idea is mainstream it is no longer in control from its original content creators. This is the way of the world, with 8 billion people and growing, the copy cat shows us we are doing it correctly. And others are trying to follow in our paths. So I fret not, as I control no plant, I merely serve the plant, so the end goal is the same. I understand also from a profits stand point as I’m trying to go legal and have cash flow sheets.
But in my eyes the goal has always been to overgrow the world, I leave this plane with nothing and only am a visitor to this moment in time. Why should I a momentary visitor take control of a plant that 24 million years old and all of a sudden know what’s better for her, she’s just playing along, and in the consistency of chivalry, no entity in there right mind in a unregulated market should even begin to lay claim to one way or another and call it the path. It’s perhaps there own path, and like it is with the human condition emotion usually prevails over logic.
So I feel no ill with perpetuating the moment and those that wish to copy me, and not to my own specifications. Be the change you want to see is my moto, and seeds are a byproduct to help this move from a regulated substance to a agricultural commodity, and by me regulating the propagation of these fine herbs over the use of a picture or misrepresentation is fine by me. Because in the end all we did is grow a flower from someone who labels it something. We decided to start to hybridized the plant for our own intent. Not hers. And this the dawning of the seed industry.
So from this point on it is fair game as to how who and what Shepard’s the plant as our fore fathers did not keep with what her design was for herself. Idk man call me whatever but in the end no matter what’s happening I am in no way going to knock a hustle until this plant is free for all!
Man, that was very well said, cheers!
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I work in android development, if you’ve ever been on xda, I’m sure you’ve heard the term “Kang”. Someone takes something from someone else and writes it off as their own with no authorship or credit. That happens ALL the time! But the kernel is open source for everyone to use, see, and edit. I post everything, the whole (actually buildable) source with all the toolchains, scripts, and instructions on how to build my work. If someone kangs me, sure thats rude af, but at least my work is being used and proliferated, even if my name isn’t the one attached to it. That’s all I wanted.
In this case, if they’re only stealing your pics, that’s shady af and false advertisement. I won’t buy from banks or “breeders” that won’t post actual pics of their plants… cough GPS cough. but if they took your seeds and renamed and selling them… I mean… that was the goal right? To get your genetics out there for the world and the plant itself.
They’re not selling his stuff. They’re telling people their plant looks like Todd’s which is a lie to the customer. It could be anything. Then what if the person goes over to Todds place and sees the same pic, and then starts to think Todd is the crooked one.
I would think if the guys is selling a breeder’s seeds, he should be able to get good pics from the person who made them and would have pics because he is proud of his work. He’s probably lying about the seeds real genetics, as well. Otherwise the breeder would send him pics to use.
I would agree. If you have enough seeds to sell and think it’s something that the mass wants you should have a picture from where the seeds come from. I don’t want to look at a picture of a great Apple tree and buy seeds to find out what I grow doesn’t look like it at all.
Whenever I look at someone trying to sell something on Kijiji (Cdn version of Craigslist) and they have a stock photo and not the actual one they are selling I don’t even consider it because I wonder what they are hiding as far as condition, etc.
Oh I totally agree, was just throwing out an example ^^
Definitely in this particular case the dude ripped off the pic to sell his own genetics which is totally wrong, false advertisement to the customer, and this isn’t the only dude doing that.
Well if we take a look at seed producers. And know that plants have many phenos. Unless one is throughly documented one would indeed already be misrepresenting the plant in its entirety, I agree with Todd that this is deceitful industry practice. And unless a committee comes together and formally address the problem with a conclusion, this will be the same practice used in every industry from the start of photography. Though in legalized industry there is rebuttal, this however comes without consequences even to the end user. As I said with out through pedigree does one truely represents the plant. Pictures are worth a thousand words. And those words are in the eye of the beholder