Blackstrap molasses hi brix what do you think?

[Phil_Bombs]

Nothing wrong with soil supplements, not everyone has the perfect soil.

so since you made thread about it…what was your logical and rational question?

[navy66]

I used a really non-fancy potting soil as my basic growing medium. I just asked whether blackstrap molasses would make any difference to my grow, or is the benefit (if any) reserved for more “living soil” set ups.

[Calcium_Enriched1996]

If nothing else, it’s gonna have at least a little NPK with plenty of vitamins and minerals!

[Toker1]

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Hmm
If so due to legal concerns I’m just going to say
Foxfarm happy frog

[Toker1]

Finding un sulpherd molasses is a trick around here.

[anon73244938]

It’s great with soil during flower in my experience, but attracts more bugs indoors. Since I switched to coco I stopped using it.

[navy66]

all the time. be careful though. i had it doing pretty complex math for me and you have to assume it’s always wrong. . .like me in HS.

[navy66]

Now you’re confusing my niceness with idiocy. Please don’t. I know how to search, and I know also that I need not become a resident expert on OG organic soils threads in order to ask this question. I’m impressed you can begin tackling the topic at any area you’d like – feel free to start with just maybe a simple yes or no? I’m not asking for Organic Chemistry 202, mate.

[DirtySlowToes]

I’m not confused. I wasn’t sure what things you’ve read on here. I didn’t mean to be condescending, but molasses specifically has been talked about in a lot of other threads. You can swear at me if you’d like. You can get as sassy as you’d like. You claim ignorance in your original post and then tell me I’m mistaking your kindness for ignorance. I’m all for you finding your answers, asking your questions, and having all the success or failure you’d like. My question was just a question. Perhaps searching for the answers may get you to them faster than asking they come to you. You don’t seem interested in my opinion now anyway. And you don’t need it, so goodluck.

[navy66]

@DirtySlowToes

I’m mistaking your kindness for ignorance.

Man, the way those three questions in a row came off, you sounded like you were addressing a fourth grader. I appreciate your desire to help, truly. I’m not the guy who looks only for quick fixes. I understand that I am asking about a big, complicated topic, but I just want to prune it down to some basics (same MO I always have, btw.). And yes, if you want to, I’d love your opinion – I’m not at all making a judgment about your knowledge, expertise, etc.

[shag]

@navy66

is a good thing for the plant and flower.)

Not really but the microbes break it down and make food/exudates and that does help the plant and the flowers.
You may find some helpful info here.

Are you using a carb product in your grow?

I have been saying for years now that feeding carbs to your plant is kind of a waste of time, unless you want to feed the microbes in the soil/medium. When I look at all the sugar/sweetener products on the market I can only ask why do folks still pay good money for sugar water? What are your thoughts on this topic? Do you use a sweetener for your plants? What benefits do you see? [image] [image]

[DirtySlowToes]

@navy66

the way those three questions in a row came off, you sounded like you were addressing a fourth grader.

The way you interpret my questions isn’t my problem. I can try to be clearer.

@shag

Sometimes I get the feeling some folks just don’t want to be helpful

Your opinion stinks.

Blackstrap molasses hi brix what do you think?

Lately I’m thinking something’s missing. And thinking back on my grows in the past before I started using the Octopots I often made compost tea using blackstrap molasses ! Now thanks to @Prisma he reminded me recently So here we go One of my concerns is adding molasses to my reservoir as it may turn to Alcohol I started adding it to my fabric bagged plants in flower Thoughts please Blackstrap molasses is high in calcium, magnesium, iron, and potassium. It also contains sulfur and a host …

Here’s one thread. First search result for molasses.

Organic Unsulphered Molasses

Hello OG’ers I have been addiung Unsulphered Molasses for years and can taste a better smoke once flushed propely for 2 weeks… Please Let others know what using Unsulphered Molasses does using it in your grows and what you have experienced with using it and without, Bennefits for using Unsulphered Molasses. [20170808_193148 (1)] …

Here’s another with good discussion. This is why I asked if you searched anything prior and what you read. The answers are all here somewhere already. Just takes some reading. Ya know? Happy growing.

[Jasper]

Amazon has it.

[DirtySlowToes]

Love you buddy

[ChongoBongo]

@navy66

but only good for organic soils with livings stuff in it versus what I use, which is basic potting soil + a handful of Nectar of the Gods granules + tons of perlite + a few cups of sand. (Like me, stupid simple and relatively cheap.)

I don’t think any medium is truly devoid of microbes, even pure hyrdo, but have you checked the label for nectar of the gods granules? They seem pretty damn organic Even if they weren’t slow release ferts are pretty forgiving on sensitive microbes, people use osmocote in fish tanks for example. I think your setup would definitely benefit from some microbial inputs, try a side by side and see what it does for you

[navy66]

The Nectar stuff was a gift from the girlfriend, even though she doesn’t use ferts in her garden at all. (We disagree on this. )

It looks helpful, and I’ve been game about using it. When I upsize my pots from 1 gal to 5 gal, I make sure there’s a reasonable amount in the lower depths of the soil and along the edges.

Other than that, I don’t do anything special to my soil or really even my water lol. Those are things I’m starting to tinker with now. As I get more experience, I’ll continue that, and track what works for me, of course, but I like a slow, iterative approach so I can see/figure it out for myself. (This is why I don’t even fuss with pH at all yet. I will. In fact, I’m experimenting with apple cider vinegar to get my pH down. I tried that earlier in my grow and it worked. Now I’m trying again, but I’ve mixed in some molasses now.

It’s start of week 7 today and it looks like there are 2 or 2.5 weeks left. So, I’ll do the ACV and molasses + regulars ferts + Flower Fuel (1-32-34) for a few days.

Then, without flushing, I’ll just revert to clear, clean waters for the last couple of days/week. I’m just about there.

I agree with you – regardless of the origins of the soil, it eventually becomes a living thing.

As I’m reading about ACV and molasses, I’m also digging deeper into soils, amendments, teas, etc. Just figuring it out.

Thanks man.

[navy66]

And I read that, brother. Still too inconclusive as a thread, for my purposes. Yes, it makes a good case for molasses feeding microbes which, in turn, is good for the plants.

However, it also includes claims to the opposite. It even includes a claim that sugar is poisonous to plants.

Hmm. My brain goes right back to my original question.

So hey. . .did I pass the test for being able to ask a question now?

[Mr.greenbee]

I always understood it as bsm feeds the microbiology.Then the microbe go into overdrive making macro n micro nutes more available and producing more exudates which can be a form of a biostimulant increasing plant health and vigor. It not going to hurt but won’t be as effective like in living soil. I’d say a microbial tea would be a better boost

[shag]

@navy66

It even includes a claim that sugar is poisonous to plants.

Sugars are pretty safe for plants and soil.
I mean anything can be toxic at high levels.
Different sugars can have different effects.
Some sugars make a good pesticide.
Some sugars like Trehalose can do many beneficial things like…

@shag

• Trehalose triggers resistance to downy mildew.
• Trehalose is effective against drought stress.
• Trehalose is effective against starvation stress.
• Trehalose is effective against salt stress.
• Trehalose provides frost protection.
• Trehalose positively affects nitrogen metabolism and photosynthesis.
• Trehalose reduces the damage caused to cells by forming a protective layer around them.
• Trehalose is also believed to act as an antioxidant.
• Trehalose is involved in the regulation of cell cycle and apoptosis, helping cells to survive under stressful conditions.
• Trehalose works well as a seed primer.
• Trehalose is known for increasing yield potential by improving plant growth.
• Trehalose is known for increasing biomass accumulation.
• Trehalose is known for increasing chlorophyll content.
• Trehalose functions as a reserve carbohydrate.
• Trehalose is known for its role as a stress protectant.
• Trehalose has anti-viral properties.
• Biochemically, trehalose has the ability to stabilize lipids and protein membrane.
• Trehalose can be successfully used for achieving the maximum performance of medicinal herbs

[PsillyRabbit]

I am a huge fan of Nectar for the Gods I purchase some of their products every year Including the granules .
“##### Why isn’t Nectar For The Gods OMRI listed?
Because we use mineral based calcium sources as well as carbon based forms, we can not, by definition, certify as organic. To be certified organic it would have to be 100% carbon based ingredients.”