I forgot that we already talked about that 
but yea it sounds like minus the fulvic what coot was talking about was the same thing. You’re describing. I did the same with the recipe and cut in half for the same reasons: way too much, so maybe the “fix it” portion of the whole thing is the fulvic of it all, which, yea, duh lol
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I feel you on the whole,”No more seeds!” thing, but it might be worth it to grab a pack of those. I really dug the way it smoked last night, for sure. Very pleasant, very stony and it seems like it’s one of those ones that keeps coming on in “waves,” too, which I love. I smoked half a joint around 7 and then started cooking dinner (fajitas, which should be a quick cook, but it ended up taking me an hour or so); ate, watched some tv (Jeopardy! and I did not do too well last night haha, kept spacing out and thinking about previous questions/answers) and finally went outside around 930 to smoke a cigarette before I started getting ready for bed, thinking,”Yeah, I guess that weed’s wearing off now.” But as soon as I got outside, I was like,”Nope, I’m still pretty baked,” haha.
Super-comfortable the whole time, though (which I know is important to you), no rushiness etc. Even though I was still pretty high, I fell asleep fine. Seems like pretty great weed, but we’ll see how the properly-cured flowers smoke in a few weeks. I’m for sure looking forward to finishing that joint later today haha.
I dunno, man, fulvic’s super-powerful. And alfalfa is, too. I don’t think I’d combine them.
But if coot says it, it must be true! Right??? Haha.
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I tried it once with the fulvic at a very low dose and it did fine, plants seemed to dig it, so maybe it’s just a case of being judicious with how hard you dose it
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Yeah, any time I use fulvic, it’s always at between a half and a quarter of the of the recommended dosage. I’ve mentioned this before, but the one time I used fulvic on a regular basis (once every two weeks) and at the recommended dosage (tablespoon per gallon of water), some of my plants got fried-the-fuck-up. The ones that got fried were the Big Sur Nigerian x NL2 testers from Bodhi; maybe the “Sativa” nature of that cross didn’t appreciate all that fulvic, I dunno. The Mendo Purps x SSDD testers grown at the same time didn’t look fried, but they yielded really shitty. I’m assuming the fulvic had something to do with.
Any time I use it now, it’s like one tablespoon in four gallons of water once a month or so. Who knows if it makes a difference at that super-diluted rate? Haha.
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It was for an instant kelp meal tea type thing, 1/4 cup kelp meal rehydrated in 1/2 cup water, mix it all up and store it in the fridge, use 2 tsp per gallon of water. I think BAS also has a mini write up on this per Coot’s instructions.
This dude on grasscity compiled all kinds of organic/no till recipes and notes on a thread which can be a good reference for certain things, especially if you forgot one thing or another. Check it our here if you’re interested.
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I know what you’re talking about re: the kelp thing, I actually did that, too, back in the day, but that’s not what I’m thinking of. The post I was thinking of was the second one syzygy shared, with the alfalfa soaked in water for a few days and then adding a cup of the resultant “alfalfa water” per gallon of water and storing the rest in the fridge for future use.
I’m gonna do the alfalfa thing again starting next grow, but I don’t know about that hydrated kelp “mash” haha or whatever you wanna call it. I used it because I’d made it, but I never really found myself needing an instant kelp tea. If I wanna do something like that now, I typically plan ahead and just soak some neem and kelp in like five gallons of water for 24 hours or so and then, uh, water with it. I did that once for this last grow, actually, but I don’t do it every grow. Probably ought to, though. Maybe haha.
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Oh okay, didn’t know they did that with alfalfa meal too but yeah, I usually just add alfalfa and kelp to my water 24-48 hours before I want to use it and that’s that. I did make the refrigerated kelp paste a number of years ago but didn’t find it necessary, plus it smelled like the ocean (and not in a good way) every time I opened the jar.
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They didn’t do the same thing with alfalfa haha. The kelp thing was what you said, that rehydrated kelp “paste” stuff, all thick and “mash-able” and whatever (I recall having to stir the fuck out of it when I added it to my water); the alfalfa thing I was remembering was like an extra-strong tea. It was water-y, like a tea haha, no extra stirring necessary. You could keep it in your fridge to store it the same way you would that kelp paste, but the consistency of the alfalfa thing wasn’t anything like the kelp paste thing. Much lower ratios of alfalfa:water (2 cups of alfalfa in five gallons of water)(or one cup of alfalfa in 2.5 gallons of water for my needs), as opposed to that kelp paste (one cup of kelp and two cups of water. Or however much you wanna make, I guess).
How much you been blazing today? Haha. Should I write a smoke report or something so we can get off of this fucking topic? Haha!
Just fucking around. It might be interesting to see how a “rehydrated alfalfa” paste similar to the kelp paste thing would turn out, how it would affect the plants etc etc. But I don’t wanna be the one to try it haha!
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Interesting, being that a regular alfalfa tea is typically only half those ratios and not to keep on this topic but that doesn’t sound very useful, who is storing 2-5 gallons worth of slightly stronger tea in their refrigerator and what’s the point of it? Why not just make a batch of fresh alfalfa tea? The hydrated kelp makes sense cause you throw in a couple teaspoons of paste into a gallon of water and proceed with watering. Why store a bunch of alfalfa tea in your fridge just to mix it half in half with plain water when you want to use it?
But yeah, aside from that, it looks like you did add quite a bit for your plants throughout the grow and your plants would likely enjoy some botanical teas a few times throughout your grow.
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You just answered your own question 
I think it’s along the same lines as the rehydrated kelp thing, in that it’s a sorta “instant alfalfa tea”; it’s just a different method of application (alfalfa water vs kelp, uh, sludge haha). I’m pretty sure the reason is because, per coot’s recommendations, it’s to be steeped for at least three days (if not longer) which I guess would make it more powerful or stronger than a 24-hour tea. And the amounts added to the initial “soaking water” or whatever-you-wanna-call-it are higher than you’d add to a “regular” alfalfa tea. I know that when I add alfalfa to neem/kelp teas, it’s just a pinch and definitely not, like, a cup or two. Same thing when I add it to my compost teas, but for different reasons.
Anyway, all this discussion about the alfalfa thing is really killing my enthusiasm for getting back to using that pre-made alfalfa water; I’ve totally changed my mind and now I’m not gonna use it like I used to haha!
Just kidding. I’m gonna try it out again next grow. Why not? I’m sure it won’t hurt anything, right? Right??? Haha. For real, though, it did seem like the plants dug it back when I used to use it. And it’s not like I have anything better to do haha…
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So, uh, I did something bad…
Ordered two packs of meangene’s Yesca OG x Jaro f3 on Friday, they should be here sometime next week. And I am ABSOLUTELY planting some of them for the next grow, on or around April 15, despite the fact that I really oughta be planting as much of my older stock as I can. I kinda didn’t want to admit that I bought more fucking seeds, I was just gonna act like,”Yeah, I’ve had those in the fridge for a while now…” whenever I started the new grow log haha. But I bought them a couple days ago, guess I have to own up to it.
It was higherthought’s review of that cross (Freeborn Selections Yesca OG x Jaro (Outdoor) — Higher Thought) that made me unable to resist. I’ve read that post at least thirty times in the last year or so. And then I fucked around and was reading the descriptions on speakeasy of all the Freeborn stuff, just because I appreciate the fact that meangene actually provides information about his crosses. I enjoy reading them, even though,”I’m not buying any more seeds, no way, I’m done,” haha. Noticed that they had that Yesca/Jaro hybrid listed a week or two ago and was like,”Oh, shit, that’s the same cross that you’ve been reading about on higherthought’s page…” Struggled for a few days, going,”Don’t do it, dude, don’t do it,” and finally caved haha.
So, yeah… I did it. I bought more seeds. And THOSE are the last ones I’m buying haha.
They sound promising, anyway. Higherthought describes the smoke as being very sour, which, yes. Meangene describes the Yesca as being very similar to Skywalker, which I’ve always loved (although I never got any “sour-ness” from any Skywalker I’ve ever blazed). However they turn out, though, I think I’ll dig them. But the goal, obviously haha, is to find something sour.
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I can see what made you fall of the wagon and buy a couple packs though, that cross sounds awesome and the lineage seems like it is right up your alley! I’ll be watching when you grow some out, didn’t @supershitfuck grow out some Jaro stuff? I think I remember him talking about a root beer/sarsparilla type thing going on that sounded delicious to me.
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Yeah, supershitfuck was/is growing the Lime 1/Jaro cross. I think? One of the Lime things, anyway. Personally, I don’t really like “lime”-flavored stuff, but after reading all of those reviews on higherthought’s page, it sounds like the “lime” in meangene’s crosses kind of translates to more of a “Sour Diesel”-type flavor? I dunno, but that’s what it sounds like.
None of the Lime crosses have ever sounded super-enticing to me (or not enticing enough for me to break down and buy, anyway haha), but the Yesca cross… I dunno haha. It just sounds good to me. I’m actually gonna take clones of that one during the upcoming grow, which I never do. But I just feel like I ought to, I dunno why.
And hopefully I’ll get a couple females 
hahaha…
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oh… ok (nathan fielder voice)
this is the lime popsicle realm tho, not the common lime de-greaser type
Obviously
yeah bro… it’s so damn good, definitely rootbeer like, chocolate… wintergreen ish, i’m drying a big plant right now actually
i doubt it
look what i got, you’ll be popping yours before me, mean gene has the flavors!! good luck with the clones too, my technique is getting real good it’s pretty damn easy once you’ve done it a coupla times
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Shocking!!
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I nearly broke down and bought some seeds from CSI over the weekend but snapped back to reality before pulling the trigger. At least you’re buying something you intend to grow right now, doesn’t seem like a bad thing at all.
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Yeah, from what I’ve read, all of the Lime stuff isn’t, like, actual real lime flavor; it’s always some sort of artificial “lime.”
Fuck. You. Haha.
As always, I’m totally anticipating the upcoming grow producing more females than I have room for. We’ll see if that works out haha. I’m gonna plant five seeds of four different crosses (that’s the plan at the moment, anyway). Twenty seeds, maybe hopefully twelve females… Ten… Somewhere around there. Maybe… haha.
Looks good! I was just reading about that Turkey Bag, it sounds kinda gross haha. Those other ones sound intriguing, though.
I’ll be out there next week some time (with samples), sorry I flaked last week.
Yeah, it wouldn’t be a “bad thing” if I wasn’t already so fucking loaded up on seeds. There’s probably three hundred packs that oughta be planted before this most recent purchase. And I will plant some of those, of course.
Still…. I feel like an asshole.
I mentioned this in a DM with Iamyou a while back, but I’m actually considering getting rid of some of my stock. I don’t really know how to go about doing that (strainly, maybe?), but, like, on the rare occasions when I start feeling bummed out, one of the main reasons is because I’m thinking about the ridiculous amount of seeds I have in the fridge. There’s fifty years-worth of seeds in there, I’m never gonna be able to grow them all out. I feel like I oughta just get rid of a lot of stuff and get them into the hands of people who are actually gonna fucking grow them.
But yeah, I’m definitely planting some of those Freeborn seeds I just ordered in a few days haha.
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Good thing I’m not one of those who say “I told ya so!” Never say never, ever, lol!
I’m sure you’re not one to beat yourself up, but, they’re just seeds, what’s the harm? 
And, I can’t wait to see them in all their perky pulchritude 
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Well, I mean… There’s no “harm” in it, obviously haha. Except that, one: I’m broke and two: I have hundreds and hundreds of seeds that I should plant before I go out and start buying new shit.
I will, of course, feel zero remorse or regret when I plant the new ones, though haha. Guilt is a useless emotion haha! Any time I do something that I might feel guilty about, I just chalk it up as a Learning Experience and vow never to do that thing again.
Doesn’t always work out…. haha.
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Sorry, meant to ask you about this, but what were you considering? Just curious.
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