I used to add SEA-90 into all my organic coco mixes. I never had an issue using it. In fact I believe I documented that I had much better results after comparison with another grow without it.
I also use a lot of teas, alfalfa teas, boogie brew tea, fly fras, etc… but never had any issue. So I don’t think it was the amendments.
And thank you for reminding me, I also have a big bag of SEA-90 in a container that I forgot about 
Time to find it.
Yeah, neither have I. It’s good stuff, I dunno why I quit using it. I think I may have stopped because I got my soil tested and the sodium levels were unusually high and since the SEA-90 and the kelp were really the only sorta “salty” things I was using, I decided to stop using it.
Kept using kelp, though haha.
You don’t think it was the amendments what? I’m not sure what you’re saying here. There weren’t any issues with this grow.
I used to use alfalfa teas, too, like two or three times in veg, and quit doing that like five or six years ago, as well, not sure why. I should get back to using those. I do sometimes add a pinch to my compost teas and neem/kelp teas, but I haven’t used a straight alfalfa tea in a long time.
There was a thing that Coot posted on grasscity years and years ago of a sorta “quick and easy alfalfa tea” recipe thing, where you soaked alfalfa in water at higher ratios than you would if you were just adding some to a tea. Then you stored that “alfalfa water” in the fridge and added like a quarter cup to, I dunno, five gallons of water, along with whatever else you wanted to add to it. It was super-easy, I used that frequently, but I don’t remember the ratios or the recipe at all. And I can’t find that specific post on grasscity now, either haha.
So if you can find it or remember the ratios, please let me know haha!
Weighed the Sour Diesel x Dragon Energy just now, before I sealed those jars for the next three weeks or so, ended up at 105.1 grams, almost exactly the same as the Santa Cruz Pure Haze cross. I’m pretty shocked, actually haha. It’s few and far between that I even approach 90 grams per plant; two plants in one grow yielding over 100 grams each is, like I said, shocking haha. Or it is to me, anyway.
The #2 Pura Vida f2 that I trimmed and jarred yesterday filled four of my smaller jars (I think they’re eight-ounce jars?) and one of my bigger jars, not too sure what size those are, but either way, that’s a lot of jars haha. Looking forward to weighing it later today or tomorrow.
I was joking about my “regimen” that I posted yesterday, since it really isn’t a regimen at all, but now I’m like,”Gawddamn, man, maybe I’ll follow that shit down to a T next grow…” haha. ”K silicate foliar followed by a K silicate drench the next day? Yeah, why not? Humic acid one day and fulvic acid five days later? Sounds good!” haha…
I forgot to comment on this, but the Sour Diesel that Doc used for the Dragon Energy hybrid was Archive’s cut. According to Doc, it’s the closest he’s found to legit SD, but he didn’t mention if it was related to Headbanger/Rez’s “Sour Diesel.” Maybe I’ll look at Archive’s site (do they have a site?) and see if they mentioned where it came from, who it came from etc.
I will say that while I was weighing that cross this morning, I was definitely getting occasional whiffs of legit Sour Diesel, that sorta “sour lemony” thing. Overall, it just smells nut-y/coffee-ish, which, BOOOOO haha, but there were whiffs of Sour Diesel… There were whiffs… haha.
Hopefully that’ll be the predominant smell when I start cracking those jars in a few weeks. One can dream… haha.
Archive doesn’t usually list lineage or anything. Idk if it’s the same as the one karma used. Motz didn’t have any issues with the headbangers but both docs headbanger f2’s, motz f3 repros, and karma’s sowah all the plants hermed for me. Males with hairs and females with balls. Motz did have herms from the sour d x de tho, and I’ve seen a few others report it along with the archive cut in general so figured I’d pass it on to more stable hands than end up throwing plants in the trash later.
Yeahhhhh, I know they’re fucking pricks haha, but I figured I’d take a look around and see if I can find out anything anyway.
Later haha.
I didn’t, either, with the three Headbangers I grew.
Did he really? Did he post those at the other place? I haven’t logged on there in a while, musta missed that. Or maybe I just forgot.
But now you got me thinking,”Maybe that Sour D/Dragon Energy weighed so much because the flowers are loaded with seeds…” haha. They’re not, but still… That sucks for Motz. The last time we exchanged DM’s, I think it was in October, he sounded really over everything. Is it possible he’s just slacking a little bit? Maybe not being as “on it” as he usually would be?
Those are rhetorical questions, no need to answer.
I misread something haha sorry.
And I can find a alfalfa tea recipe for you. Gotta go through my papers, I havnt used it the last few runs. I ran out and forgot to buy more, and the I forget about it completely till I read your post lol
So that’s two things you’ve reminded me to use now. Thanks man 
Yeah, I mean, I can find an alfalfa tea recipe online, but I want that one specific recipe that Coot posted on grasscity in, like, 2009 haha. It really was just alfalfa and water, wasn’t anything complicated, but I can’t remember what the ratios were. I’m sure I could replicate it myself, though.
I dunno. Maybe I’ll fuck around and find out next grow haha.
Whenever I make alfalfa tea (rarely) I adhere to the “Less is More” mantra. Topdressing feels safer to me so that’s usually how I apply it. Also 1 cup to 5Gal sounds like a lot to me for indoor plants but here are some of his posts from Grasscity.
Edit here are links
Oh okay. I’ll try to find it for you. I’m interested now too
Was this the one ?
I can only find his alfalfa tea recipe with kelp.
"sorry to the OP that this is off-topic but… real quick, what are your ratios for the alfalfa/kelp tea? Thx.
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5 gallons of water
1.5 cups alfalfa meal
1/4 cup kelp meal
I brew/aerate for 24-36 hours and apply.
The application of alfalfa tea in most mainstream gardening is to enhance flower and bud set. I’m not sure why it’s held by some in the cannabis growing deal that it’s a bad thing."
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Aww, dude, thanks for looking. That’s not the exact post I was trying to find (I’ve actually found those two myself, back when I was searching for the alfalfa thing I was thinking of), but I guess they’ll do haha. I dunno why I can’t find the exact one I’m thinking of. Probably doesn’t help that Coot posts shit under “lumper” and “overdere” and a dozen other names haha.
Anyway, yeah. I dunno if I’ll follow that exact thing, it does look a little different than what I remember, but I think it’ll work fine.
If coot says it, it must be true, right??? Haha…
Dude! Don’t worry about it! Haha. I was just kidding around! Do NOT waste your time trying to find the alfalfa thing. Or don’t look for my benefit, anyway.
Thank you, though. That was nice of you to look, but for real, I think it’s pretty much just,”Soak some alfalfa in some water and then, uh, water your plants with it,” haha. Isn’t anything magical.
Your welcome man I like trying to find things in old posts… sometimes lol
But I really enjoyed looking at all his old recipes and posts.
I found a nice thread you might like. I’ll message it to you. It’s pics of all coots recipes. Well not all
I really can’t find a tea that’s just alfalfa. I found 4 different sites that he posted or talked about a alfalfa/kelp tea.
Even an alfalfa/kelp paste.
AND an Alfalfa/kelp cloning solution that help cuts root. But no plain old alfalfa tea 🤷
Yeah that all I ever did really. I just took a recipe offline from an old book. It was just measure a certain amount. Stuck it in a bucket with water to aerate, and then 24 hours later I believe I diluted it in a gallon of water, like 2 cups per gallon or something? Then I just watered my girls with it.
But I really like the idea of adding kelp now, so I’m gonna try to find some kelp meal tomorrow
not sure if youve spoken in relation to the potency but my sour diesel x a5haze had quite strong phenos and one with clear hints of sour d flavor/smell.
Re the alfalfa tea thing, if you watch the build a soil episode Jeremy did with Coots he talks about his “fix it mix” which is just kelp alfalfa soaked in water for three days and then some fulvic added to it, I wrote down the recipe if that sounds like what you’re looking for but he spoke about that as a like quick fix for weird deficiencies and whatnot, probably works fine in different circumstances but just sounded vaguely like what y’all were talking about
Uh uh, no, I haven’t tried it yet. I’ve got a little bit in a caviar jar haha that I got my from my last real job like seven years ago, it’s actually a pretty perfect-sized “eighth jar.” I’ll probably get into that in a few days. I only trimmed her three days ago, kinda wanna give even the preliminary samples a little bit of time to cure.
I did try the Santa Cruz Pure Haze x A5Thai for the first time last night and it seems very excellent haha. Those flowers were also taken from a sorta “preliminary sampling jar” (I’ve got tons of tiny jars that I put samples in, even though the smoke reports will be written based on flowers that’ll be cured for three weeks minimum), but the high was great. Looking forward to sampling more over the course of the next couple days or until that jar’s empty, whichever comes first haha.
There wasn’t any fulvic in the thing I was thinking of, it was just straight “alfalfa water.” The second “LumperDawgz” post that syzygy shared is pretty much the one I was thinking of, although I don’t remember using two cups of alfalfa. I also didn’t use five gallons of water to make the thing I’m thinking of (that’s way more than I’d need haha); I think I just cut that recipe in half and used 2.5 gallons of water and one cup of alfalfa, which may be why the “two cups of alfalfa” sounded a little, uh, off when I first read that. But that second post is the one I was thinking of, pretty sure about that.
Thanks, though. And you know I’m never gonna watch a video of BAS Jeremy, right? His beady eyes really get on my nerves haha…
Weighed the #2 Pura Vida f2 just now, before I sealed those jars up for the next three weeks: 90.9 grams, which, again, I’m pretty shocked about. Besides the #5 PV f2 and the Malibu Pure hybrid, everything yielded three+ ounces this round (the SCPH and the Sour Diesel crosses were each a quarter-ounce less than a QP), which I’ll definitely take haha.
I wonder if the extra-long veg for the Nikah and SCPH x A5Thai had anything to do with it. I remember the last grow I vegged for a super-long time (The Fuzz, Clusterfunk and Rare Dankness’ Tangerine Haze, vegged for like 90 days), all those plants yielded a bunch, too, the Fuzzes especially.
I did notice when I dumped the pots into the soil bins that the root balls on some of the plants from this grow were pretty well-developed and bigger than usual, but I don’t remember now which plants those were.
Anyway, yeah, maybe the long veg had something to do with it.
Maybe I’ll veg everything for three months now… Haha, just kidding, fuck that. 60 days and then I’m flipping. I’m pretty happy about the yields, anyway. I was worried that maybe this wouldn’t be enough to get me through until the next harvest (which’ll probably be mid-August/early September), but I think I’ll be alright haha.
Was half tempted to order that haze cross from HG just to have some haze stuff on hand. Ultimately talked myself out of it because the last thing I need is more packs of seeds…
Tempting though…
