Those are looking beautiful! The weather has surely been crazy this year, my dehumidifier has been working overtime. The poor polar bears must be swimming by now.
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Damn … this one needs to hurry up and finish lol
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Hope everybody had a good weekend. 
Day 49F has passed and the Pura Vida ladies are streaking to the finish line.
They’ve been eating through their lower leaves. These are hungry plants. They each only have around 4-5gal of soil in the 7gal pots because I didn’t fill them up to the brim. I feel like it’s good to get a sense for the plants’ limits, likes and dislikes, the first time you run them.
In the last three weeks I’ve let them get slightly droopy four or five times between waterings. As I mentioned before, I try to keep my organic soil moist when possible, so I ain’t tryin to deprive them by watering less, but I have been trying to keep humidity down overnight, and going longer between watering was the solution. I think a combo of those dry periods and natural senescence of fully seeded plants at the end of week 7 are equally to blame for eating the lowers, so I ain’t sweatin it. Glad I left a lot of foliage on them!
Here’s pics of each pheno. No notes because, as @minitiger astutely pointed out, looks and smells don’t matter much along the way unless you’re trying to find specific phenos. Nobody can pick winners before the cured smoke test. In case anybody does care, I’ll make notes later this week.
Shitty Pics Disclaimer: Sorry about the random flash/color issues of my cameras. I try to never take pics with flash on because I hate how it overemphasizes the trichs and creates a blue tint to everything, making plants look unnaturally frosty (like the ubiquitous night shots that people tend to prefer these days), but my old Canon Rebel forces the flash a lot of the time and I haven’t gone fully manual yet.
If you zoom the frost shots you should be able to see trich colors - only ambers are on leaves so far.
Pheno #1:
Pheno #2:
Pheno #4:
Pheno #7:
I’m seeing quite a few ripe tiger striped beans in buds, even picked off a bunch from preflowers. They’ve been pollinated for right at a full month. Those preflower seeds will be dried and then given a cold snap in the fridge for a week and then sent to a good friend for a germ test. I’ll report back on germ rates before the end of the thread.
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I’m learning that in the end the smoke is what really matters. When you say trying to pick a a specific pheno, do you mean, one that somebody has already found and you are trying to rediscover?
If you were looking for a specific structure say, wouldn’t you want to take those seeds, and then search smoke quality further from there?
I’m just trying to learn, so if you could elaborate a bit, that would be fantastic.
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Looking good Nube, 
Glad to see you grinding through. Amazing work.
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I’m really diggin that no. 1 with the no. 7. I like short plants tho, so very biased picks. Not saying that they all don’t look fire, I’d smoke all of em.
Really kool project coming to the final turn, great work fasho .
@Buck5050 welcome to the show 
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Wow those look absolutely amazing man. Yall are kind as keep it up!! 
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Yeah @Badger I’m trying to provide a solid amount of information so people can determine what phenos they find based on my pics/notes. Also so people have a general idea of what to expect, as much as you can when unlocking the genetic treasure chest of open pollination F2. With 5 males and 4 females used to make the seeds, there are going to be a huge variety of phenos, with many being significantly different from the 4 females I found. That’s why it’s a preservation run.
As far as looking for a specific structure, like @Indoornesian who wants shorter plants, yeah you’d sort through a lot of phenos to look for the combination of the structure and the effects you want. Or any other criteria you’re focusing on. You might find it, or you might not. That’s the magic of eff twos! 
Take clones of 100% of all plants before flip so you make sure you have them backed up. That’s a critical step.
Thanks for engaging on the subject. Feel free to ask as many questions as you want - I and others will try to help to the best of our abilities. Hopefully with more objective facts than personal anecdotes and weed grower myths. lol 
Hey @Buck5050 good to see you here. This is the run I was going to post at Bean Basement before that shit went down. Oh well. Stick around and build your rep so you can get on some of these big preservation runs. Lots of people doing good work for free for the community instead of trying to monetize everything by making cash grab seed companies like everybody and their brother is doing in the last 5 years. Or buying up old packs and gouging the market reselling them for 10x the purchase price. lol
Next up for me is Good Medine F2, then Cheech Wizard F2, then probably Mother’s Milk F2 if I can trade for bodhi’s MM31 cut. After that, Silver Mountain, and who knows what else will turn up…
Thanks @Joboo they’re looking a little rough around the edges, shaggy like fully seeded plants usually do, but I’m surprised by how much frost is packing on. And two full weeks to go, at least! I might let them go longer to ripen all the seeds so I can give 20 per instead of 10 seeds per pack. We’ll see how it all pans out.
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Wow, now it sounds like even more fun. Then you start putting together the characteristics you like, and inbreeding those to stabilize it?
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These ladies are living the Pura Vida lifestyle to the max 
i’d love to see that beauty down here 
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Tarrazu coffee and bud - wake n bake con Ticas !
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Check Wizard f2’s! That sounds good. I was always curious about that Green Curry OG Bodhi talked about. This spring, I noticed a weed plant growing in my planter, I have no idea where it came from. I had put a Mendo Purps/SSDD male out there two winters ago, just for shits and giggles. But it never flowered or anything. I’m assuming that’s where this plant came from. Anyway, it smelled exactly like green curry. I shoulda cloned it and brought it inside…
I hear you on the Canon Rebel, that’s the camera I use, too. Getting decent pictures without the flash on is pretty much impossible.
Plants look good. Looking forward to seeing people’s grow reports of these f2’s. In five years haha!
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Awesome, glad to hear you have one of Bodhi’s higher CBD offerings on deck. I think the community could benefit from having this in their deck of cards.
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Yeah man, I dunno if you’d want to stabilize it or not unless you’re trying to start a seed company selling inbred lines. I don’t know anything about that, so I can’t speak to the methodology of IBL selection other than it’s purely observational and full of pitfalls, plus it requires you to reliably keep clones of everything (all males and females, both what you used and discarded, along the whole journey to do it right (in case you get to F5 and beyond and realize you fucked up in selection at some point prior, then want to re-work.)
I’m no expert on anything, especially not growing weed, but if you’re just growing for yourself or pheno hunting stellar strains to sell, here’s how I’d go about picking winners.
Run as many beans as you can reliably manage, from a dozen to a few hundred, figuring out early on what you’re specifically looking for with that strain, ranking the attributes from must have to nice to have to don’t care.
Make sure to take a ton of notes about all aspects of the grow along the way, clone them, bring em to a clean harvest without too many issues, cure them right, get lots of people’s opinions on the cured smoke from all phenos, and then keep the winners if you had a good clean grow. If you had a shitty grow, re-run them all since health has a major impact on the end product.
When you finally harvest them under optimal conditions and find some keepers that hit all the marks, whittle that number down to 1 or 2 keepers over the course of a couple more grows, then keep them forever. Pass clones out to friends and forums like here. Make s1 if you want so you have the genetics sorta quasi-backed up - they won’t be exact replicas of the mom, typically, but they can be close +/- a tiny bit, and seeds are a lot easier to keep than clones.
Hope that helps. 
@WHF let’s all hope the pandemic abates and I can hand deliver you and @MadScientist some of these F2 later this year. 
I’d love nothing more!
@rootfarmer I get Tarrazu beans from FreshRoastedCoffee.com and they’re delicious! Good call. 
I’m glad somebody is as excited about those Cheech Wizard as I am, @minitiger I make Thai Green Curry with Forbidden Rice all the time and, having lived in NM for years and grown up with a parent from NM, I love green chile of all types. I can’t imagine weed that smells like green curry. It sounds wild! And worth preserving for the community. 
Hopefully they’d want to grow them out soon, right? lol
My Rebel XSi is something like 12 years old and showing its age for sure. I’d love to get something inexpensive that can do both macro focus stacking and quality HDR out of the box. That’s a pipe dream for the moment because I got no disposable income…or any income for that matter. lol 
@Chiefer88 good to see more RIU folks posting over here. Welcome! I agree about the community needing some CBD seeds. I’ll be attempting the DIY Beam’s test to determine which males/females from the Good Medicine contain CBD. And I just realized I misspelled Medicine in my last post. Whoops! Need some CBD to help repair my broken brain. lol 
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Good insight. Thanks a bunch.
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I’d absolutely love that man! Hilarious you live in NM, I went from the 505 to the 506 green chile smelling bud would be an absolutely shocking beauty 
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Yesterday, I woke up to a scary sight in the grow. Overnight, Pura Vidas #4 and #7 flopped over for no apparent reason. 
I immediately got to work trying to salvage them. Because all my cages are in use in the outdoor garden, I put a small stake from a 2019 gifted plant into #7 and zip tied all the branches to it. Then I used a couple 4ft aluminum LED profile to the same effect in both #4, and just in case with #2, even though #2 was still upright. #1 is short and stout so she didn’t need it.
No branches broke, and only one top on #7 broke (not sure how) but is still hanging on, so I left it propped up. Had to raise the light fixture a foot so the alum stakes wouldn’t hit it. Overall, I’m pleased with how it turned out. I should have probably given them some support from the getgo, but wasn’t expecting them to get so heavy. In the end, crisis averted. 
But, on the plus side, I plucked a bunch of preflower PV F2 and they were all ripe, perhaps a couple with a very very slight green tinge, but beautiful tiger striped beans.
Notes on smells today at day 53F
#1 Slight sweet marshmallow and grapefruit scent. When I ate some of the preflowers (minus seeds), the taste is chocolatey, spicy, and makes my tongue go numb. So crazy!
#2 Has a gorgeous marshmallow smell with a light citrus back end. Tastes like marshmallows.
#4 Bright citrus and floral smell with some faint hints of sweet cream. Very spicy and slightly earthy flavor.
#7 Has a very citrusy smell. Spicy and no real discernible flavor.
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Poor girls, glad you got em perked back up anf that the seeds are looking good…Marshmallow and grapefruit sounds pretty amazing… when you say spicy do you mean like a pepper? I ate some hashberry nug a few years ago cause it smelled so damn good and it was pretty spicy.
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Man, that’s a bummer about them flopping over so quickly like that. Usually, you can tell, like,”Okay, I probably need to stake and tie in the next couple days.” They musta just swelled big-time all of a sudden. What day are they on again? Plus side, that marshmallow smell/flavor is supposed to be a feature of the Hollywood, isn’t it? That’s what I’ve read anyway. Never noticed it in any of the Hollywood I’ve ever blazed, but I’ve only ever sampled nasty hydro-grown dispensary versions of it, never tried any organically grown before. Although I do have a pack of B’s Hollyweed, gonna grow some of that during my late winter/early spring grow, so I’ll have some for next summer…
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glad they’re back up heavy beasts hahaha… #2 sounds awesome
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