C_in_CT's basement hydro

Alright, so I know I said I was in LITFA mode, and I mostly still am :sweat_smile: but I took a few of the largest fan leaves off, in the interest of keeping light to as much of the plant as possible. While doing so, I noticed some progress, so I figured I would take some pictures.

Plant 1 Branch 1


Plant 1 Branch 2

Plant 2 Branch 1

Plant 2 Branch 2

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Ooooooo this is the fun part, you get to watch your plant start giving back for all the work you put in :grin::metal:

Looking great!!

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@TheValleyPhantom This is my nonsense over here. Iā€™m always happy to answer questions about stuff. I waffle on whether to be extremely detailed or err on the side of ā€œpeople will ask if theyā€™re curiousā€ when making posts.

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Nonsense is my forte sir :joy: I also prefer a detailed. Intelligent conversation so I imagine we will get on well. Let me make a mocha and Iā€™ll start from the top here :face_with_monocle: Iā€™ll be sure to ask any questions

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Water maintenance today, for the first time since setting up the new reservoir, probably could have put it off even longer, but it felt like a good time for it.

Getting closer to the light, probably still enough room(?)


Another angle

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Plenty of room so far. Looking solid!

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I concur! And if it gets too tight, there is always super-cropping :thinking:

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Yeah, I had not intended that to be part of my first grow, since Iā€™d originally planned to top much earlier and not let them get remotely close to too tall. But Iā€™ve researched it in case it becomes necessary.

I should also be able to get more space out of the top if I take out the ratcheting adjusters and just zip tie the light to the bars or something. Hoping to not have to mess with it, but itā€™s an option.

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2 things (literally had to add this for my own memory :joy:) ā€¦

A par meter is your friendā€¦ I picked up a pretty cheap one from Amazon that connects to my phone ($60ish Canadian I think). It seems to be pretty accurate compared to what the light is supposed to put out. Thatā€™ll tell you when youā€™re too close and when you still have room :metal:. I found out 2 of my lights hit 3000+ par on the edges and 1200 in the middle, which takes me to my second pointā€¦

Bud clips :grin::grin:. Supercropping can be tough to do mid-budding, but the bud clips that adjust are awesome for making lots of little changes

:grin::grin:

I used to supercrop every plant, since I got the clips I donā€™t think I will supercrop again.

Anyway, just my 2 cents, the plants are looking awesome!!! :metal::ok_hand:

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Oh, Iā€™ve been using the adjustable clips I printed, I just wasnā€™t sure if that was going to be sufficient for later stages. I have only so much I can do because the branches are pretty robust at this point, so I thought I might need the harsher methods.

The par meter has had me torn. Early on I had the light pretty close to the plants, until they were different sizes, then I raised it up and just left it there. Iā€™ve since been letting the brightness control the temp and VPD. I have various phone apps that are meant to check the light, but I havenā€™t messed with them, because every time I thought about trying to adjust based on that parameter, something else went sideways, so I never bothered. Maybe for the next go Iā€™ll pay more attention to it. :thinking: Or if it becomes an issue during flowering I suppose.

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I do know if thereā€™s a ā€œthis is too big to clipā€ sized branch (there totally could be, I honestly donā€™t know), but if itā€™s that big your fingers will be killing you trying to soften it to bend and twist over (although, youā€™ll still need to soften it a bunch to get a clip on it soā€¦ Half a dozen of oneā€¦ :person_shrugging:)

I tried a couple apps on my phone, when I got into the tent all of the said I needed a diffuser on the phone sensor, lol. I honestly donā€™t think you have ANYTHING to worry about, your grow looks amazing :ok_hand::ok_hand: (coming from a guy who openly admits he has way over done his own lighting :joy:)

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Iā€™m like you. Iā€™ve considered getting one but since I burnt up my second grow Iā€™ve gotten to where I watch the plants and increase or decrease based on them. Itā€™s worked out well so far.

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Itā€™s entirely possible Iā€™m being too gentle with them. This falls into the ā€œthings I canā€™t learn until I have plants in front of meā€ category. One nice thing with the printed clips is that I can use them to help get leverage for bending the branches. I am just always paranoid about it :sweat_smile:

There are some things that Iā€™m going for monitors and tracking with hard numbers, and some stuff that Iā€™m trying to just learn to read what the plants need. Thereā€™s a ton of stuff that is more complex than I will pick up on in a single grow, but ā€œtoo hot/brightā€ is an easy starting place. Since different strains might have different needs, I figure being flexible on some parameters makes sense.

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I would probably also feel differently if I was trying to squeeze every possible bit of yield out of the plants.

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When it comes to bending, Iā€™m not sure you can be too gentleā€¦ Iā€™ve broken soooo many branches because I bent them before they were soft enough, even when using clips.

Again, just my 2 cents :grin::metal:, you are doing a great job!

Do you have any buds starting up??

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You asked at a good time, I stopped in the basement after taking the dog out. I didnā€™t keep track of which branches are on which plant, but hereā€™s an array of closer photos. The more developed ones are definitely on Plant 2 though, which makes sense because itā€™s taller. Poor plant 1 got stunted a bit with all of the water bullshit right after Iā€™d trimmed the roots and flipped to 12/12 shortly after.








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Oohhh very nice!! Those are gonna stack up beautifully :ok_hand:

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As reference, this is with my light spending most of its time on setting 2 of 10 since switching to 12/12 on Sept 20th and in the same position as in the photo from earlier today (obviously the plants have gotten closer to it though as theyā€™ve stretched).

I can only imagine what theyā€™d look like if I had full environmental controls and had the lights maxed out.

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You could probably turn that up, eh?

Lol, par meter :joy::person_facepalming:

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Oh Iā€™m sure I could from a ā€œplants can handle itā€ standpoint. This is what I was talking about with using the light to control temp and VPD though. I figured Iā€™d give it a try and see what kind of results I get. If Iā€™m happy with what I get, then it works! If not, then Iā€™ll look at environmental modifications for next run.

I have it set up in the controller to have a base level, then adjust by 1 light level per .1 ā€¦vpd, whatever the unit is that it is away from my set point. Iā€™m actually due to turn up the vpd number, I think theyā€™ve recovered plenty and theyā€™re 2 weeks into 12/12, so Iā€™ll bump that up.

Buckle up, we might hit light level THREE!! :joy:

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