I guess you haven’t had superior weed from the same plant genetics have you. Much of the reason that cloning isn’t all that appealing to me sticking that strain in a genetic lock! Never to go on to the next level! Defend his flawed pre programmed hard coded theory all you want. It is very flawed to believe that you can not coax a plant to produce better fruits. Nor build on genetic traits. Good luck with all your grows and I truly wish you the best of results. Read the story of Charlotte’s Web strain… And you tell me that you can’t manipulate a strain to give desired effects. I’m gonna call BULLSHIT all day long. Diplomacy went out the door when @Fuel chose to suspend diplomacy… Not me! Get that right now! I’ve been respect up until this point. We’re there… and the best part is my point is science based as well when you get right down to the brass tax. Fools!
Yup, sure thing. Thanks.
Do yourself a favor … Expand your understanding by not getting stuck in so called accepted science. Sometimes it’s flawed not because science is flawed but it is our understanding of science that is flawed.
The fact is manipulation of potency can be done anyone not understanding that simple fact is not worth wasting time debating.
And you were saying @Fuel @Northern_Loki… Science you say… Hard coded you say… Not possible you say… Undisputed fact you say… This is the guy who you praised @Hoodini. The hard coded guy! LOL well I guess it’s time to retire OG logic… Or logic all together! As I drift off to retirement @Fuel one last thing I want to say✌️out! Don’t like my thread/subject do feel free to reframe from inputting on it. Act like an idiot I’ll treat you like one!
Great. IF you don’t want us to “reframe” your thread, then don’t tag us. And, certainly don’t ask for other members opinions on whatever your theories are if you can’t be respectful. Thanks.
IF you are going to act troll like, perhaps check out RIU. They seem to encourage that behavior.
True. But how do we prove it? Youtube videos? Some random guy who says so? Cold fusion?
Ante up with something that’s compelling and not already understood. You haven’t shown us anything other than optimizing a plant towards it’s potential. And, then you are all over the place demanding that we believe some theory by trying to belittle us all the while calling us idiots and fools.
Well, I suppose the presented videos tell us not to harvest early, that genetics are the most important aspect, spoon feed the plant, add CO2, add lighting. And? I suppose one could buy that guy’s book to learn how to breed a hexaploid.
Ditto. p.s. It’s brass tacks, bub.
Hahahaha speaking as a true hypocrite! My respect can be measured by the respect I received. If you’re going to be disrespectful and expect respect you’re definitely in need of self reflection time… Or a time out for those millennial libtards out there. Now run off to your safe place.
Sure thing. Enjoy the echo chamber.
Come on guys this has been entertaining and informative for me let’s not get in our emotions now @Fuel @jgblackriver3 @Northern_Loki there is a bunch of mad internet people let’s be happy ones. And yes I need to read more books I’ve already been told that by half the people on here Lolol. Apical meristem is exactly what I want to talk about @Fuel in my experience if you test apical meristems vs lateral meristems for thc the apical meristem will test higher. Not once not twice hundreds of times. At multiple labs on multiple occasions. Hell even steep hill themselves informs customers about where to take samples to get a more true reading. If one of the places I consult for let’s me I’ll drop some tests on here. Plants are living things they are biodynamic and there’s still a lot that we don’t know so let’s not always resort to resting our knowledge on those that came before us even though they should be respected. @Northern_Loki I’m glad you bring up scientific method we should follow that but I see this as the beginning steps not the conclusion. We have a hypothesis with some evidence let’s do the fun part.
I agree fully @505love being respectful is always high on my list. I tried very hard to be respectful but at what point is respect cancelled out by the actions of others. If you follow along with ALL interactions… fuel took off the gloves far before myself. Not only did he swing hard at me he bombed others in my thread. A real bonehead move on his part. Tried respectful to explain still no help. Anyone NO matter how long they’ve been growing that doesn’t understand that you can manipulate potency by care of the plant. Not change a plant but take and coax the very best results from it. The minute you trim a plant you’ve manipulated that plant. NO one who is disrespectful to another person consistently deserves to be respected by that person unconditionally. That’s not how respect works. Would you respect me fully if I was to jump on you as fuel did myself. I don’t think so. BTW if you read my posts I gave fair warning trying to continue to be respectful. Much respect to you 505love… Why? Because you deserve it by the way you choose to treat others… I hope you the best truly.
I don’t like the name calling going on in here. Have a discussion like grown folks. Seriously, calling people fools and idiots does not make for a good point or a community.
Right… I really don’t either. Not why I joined and much of the reason I have inquired how to remove my account @LemonadeJoe… When offensive post were made dragging my interactions with others like yourself into the mix. I really enjoy our interaction but the person who chose in his own words to “suspend diplomacy” hit first. I even tried to carry myself respectfully, but at some point standing up for ones self will come into play. We are there as I warned. It is one thing to disagree it is another to “suspend diplomacy” add insult anf drag others into it simply because of our interactions on topic. This is why I had asked @LemonadeJoe how to remove account prior to the barrage of insults handed out by Fuel
Here you go @LemonadeJoe how’s that. Now you were saying
I don’t see him calling you names @jgblackriver3. We like having you here, so don’t delete your account. Just take it down a notch, Homie. No reason to get personal either direction. Peace and Big Buds!!
Oh, I forgot… if you legitimately have a personal issue with someone. There is a shark tank here where you can fight it out.
Really interesting… Not here to fight though. It’s one thing to respectfully disagree. It’s another to try to lambaste someone for a difference of opinion. One of the main reasons I no longer have a FB account. To much drama LOL… I guess with the member in question being a OG of the site maybe he should have used it and then my response wouldn’t be in question would it @LemonadeJoe thanks @Meesh good info to have. I would have done so if I had prior knowledge. Respect really is Numero Uno when dealing with others.
@LemonadeJoe @Northern_Loki @Fuel I would like to extend an apology for my comments that has offended others on this thread. I mean no disrespect by my challenging anyone’s knowledge or understanding. My point is simple unless one casts seeds and walks away letting nature take over at her will any nutrients, trimming, etc etc is a form of manipulation and depending on what techniques are used one gets various outcomes. I am trying to get the best results knowing that low watt lighting can result in less than desirable product. In order to overcome those I have decided to remove a majority of the lower flowers in hope to channel those to remaining flowers (tops). Is it proven NO… it is my hypothesis only! I sincerely hope others here could help take that theory to the next level. @fuel I sincerely apologise and ask that you please please consider helping prove viability of my hypothesis one way or another. I’m hoping to restore diplomacy with ALL.
Thanks @jgblackriver3.
Believe it or not, I think what was being bandied about is essentially a discussion on the same concepts. However, the approach is simply coming from opposite directions.
Tuning the understanding between the two camps is where the friction is.
Fair move, i appreciate this last post for its fair valor.
I can’t promise anything for your theory, but i will plan concrete and exhaustive tutorials on pruning and training the next months. It’s a promise.
I’d want to see that. I’ll most likely be starting my next grow when this one finishes. Both autos and photos. By the time I flip the photos it’ll be time to harvest the autos. I’ll be prepping myself for a perpetual harvest.