Cannabis Current Events (Part 2)

it literally never said they wouldn’t be mandated. i read every word myself.

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It never said that new licenses would be mandated. And that is the wording that it needed to say to force action. Florida won’t give licenses out with the laws on the books right now. The chances of them giving more out because the amendment says they could if they want is less than zero. It was a crappy amendment from a corporation with bad cannabis karma. We can and will do better

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So the real question is how likely are they to approve home grow?
Why not put it up for a vote at the same time?

Just something I’ve thought about. Currently the big corporations are on the sidelines and it’s still incredibly dirty. Who thinks small operations are going to have an easier time when Phillip morris gets involved?

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it never said they wouldn’t be mandated. you’re the one who said it does. it doesn’t even mention them at all. I don’t even know where you got that from :joy: bills don’t get into nitty gritty details like that. there is a literal limit on the amount of words you can put in the bill. do you understand how this works?? we give a rough set of guidelines…the bill… and vote on it… if it passes by 60% or better then the state legislation elects a group of people to write the actual laws. nowhere in that bill does it detail specific laws about possession, shops, etc. you can go back and look at the 2016 mmj bill if you want to see how brief they are.

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you can’t vote to legalize growing something currently illegal to posses. homegrow vote comes after legal possession passes.

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It just says the state can allow more licenses that’s it. Nothing else. That doesn’t mean shit. Trulieve wrote that amendment to stop competition and open their market up.

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pure speculation.

the line you’re referring to does not have anything to do with those licenses. they’re already approved. what that line DOES do is open the potential for lawmakers to allow mom and pop shops and grows like they do for hemp now. IN THEORY they could take the exact laws they have on the books now for hemp, and simply allow for THC now, given that line. That’s not to say they will…but also there isn’t a guarantee they wont do that. It simply allows option.

the 22 licenses you’re referring to are mmj mmtcs. totally different set of laws and licenses.

Here’s the tline we’re discussing, for anyone interested.

Medical Marijuana Treatment Centers, and other entities licensed as provided below, are allowed to acquire,
cultivate, process, manufacture, sell, and distribute marijuana products and marijuana accessories to adults for
personal use.

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Those 22 would have been grandfathered into the rec market. Trulieve would have never written opening the market up like that in their amendment. It goes against everything they promised to their shareholders. It’s a common misconception that the hemp market would be let into the rec market.
Licensed entities is the key words. They don’t give those out easily

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again…speculation. we can’t ever know one way or another since it didn’t pass. but what we can say is legal experts agree that line does, indeed, open POTENTIAL for that to actually happen if it had passed. it would have allowed the lawmakers to do so should they have chosen to. maybe they would have opted against doing it. who knows.

the monopoly argument was, and still is, complete and utter bullshit. it was a lie spread by opposition to get you to turn your back on your own interest.

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22 dispensaries isn’t a monopoly for sure but it’s not exactly an open market either. The whole thing was a trick to take advantage of how desperate people are here

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that’s not even the point…not even on the same planet.

the “not a monopoly” argument is because it has that line that allows them to OPEN THE MARKET PROPERLY.

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If you think Trulieve spent 140 million to open up the market properly you’re very naive. Don’t believe the propaganda. They are not your friends

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Well, I am only slightly disappointed, and not in the least surprised by the failure of the amendment. Without home grow, nothing changes for me. I will continue to be an Outlaw, because I have had the chance to sample some of the local flowers available (legal and not), wow, so much worse than I anticipated. Shockingly mediocre, not worth smoking at all. IMO.

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I definitely agree the law was flawed, but things have to start somewhere. Also, the 60% threshhold pretty much guarantees there will never be legalized cannabis at any level or any sort in the state, especially given the current environment.

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The Florida Medical Marijuana Amendment 2 in 2016 was passed with 71% of the vote. It’s not hard to get the needed 60% of the votes in the state. It was a really bad Amendment that wasn’t written well enough to pass.

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2016 and 2024 are VERY different political environments. I only see things getting worse in Florida.

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We still have the best weather (not during hurricane season though).

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How come there haven’t been any pro-open market business counter proposals in FL?

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Right now we have two markets running the show here. The medical companies and the hemp/smokeshop market. THCa is here in a major way. It’s taking a huge chunk of the market share out of the medical side. Anyone can walk into a shop and buy whatever amount of buds they want without a license. The west coast business sell their excess product into the THCa market making the quality very competitive sometimes. The medical industry is not guaranteed to be profitable. There are two licensed companies leaving the market because of slow sales.

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As one person said corporate America wants 100 % of the market. They don’t want to share. Nobody is going to put forward real open market.

Ironically California is now trying to rollback some regulations and taxes in an effort to overcome the black market

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