Chat room (let's chat!) 💬 (Part 2)

Of course PIGEONman thought of this :laughing:

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I’ve needed to use my Tennis-Ball-Blunderbuss to keep the flock of 10-25 Pidgey’s off my roof!


(*I shoot the ball into the air and they freak out and fly away)

While I love them, it’s a tar roof and they’re acidic shit is gonna kill it/clog my eaves/get my pet bird Bubble (*or us) sick, :sob: I miss when it was just 2-3. Then someone opened their beaks to the rest of the fock and ruined it.

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Any one experiencing the heavy smoke from the Hudson Bay fires?

Yesterday was unreal visibility was down to less than a quarter mile worst I’ve seen all summer and we’ve had a few fires this year.

This morning it’s a bit better vision wise but still a heavy oder of campfire smoke.

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That was the cheapest I could find in a 20 mile radius. I passed a couple that were 550 a gallon for 93oct

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No better here in Ontario. They dropped prices way down when everyone was stuck at home and now they gouge us again when people are able to drive. The whole petroleum industry should have the corporate logo of a guy in a ski mask. That goes for the government vampires as well who take a large share for themselves. They say they want to help but they are full of shit since the more that is charged means the more they can screw people out of.

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I once drove from Texas to Toronto and as I moved north prices went up and up and up.

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LOL, yeah. Sad part is we refine more gas here in Canada than we consume yet sell it at a discount to the US and than buy it back at a premium. The system sucks.

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Remember when petro Canada was public?

It speaks to my sensibilities

Edit: same with the 407

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To be fair, the reason oil/gas prices were so low when everyone was stuck at home is because everyone was stuck at home. Likewise, Biden has nothing to do with gas prices. That’s due to a process that’s been happening for decades. In the 70s, the US had a gas crisis and stagflation because the oil was all controlled by the Middle East. Then we recovered from the gas crisis in the 80s, and by the 90s we’d decided that it would be easier to wage 30 years of perpetual war against the Middle East to get it more firmly under our control. In the meantime, we also discovered fracking, and the Permian Shale basin was born. The US oil/LNG industry exploded and continued expanding until mid-2010s, at which point there was pretty persistent overproduction. That caused oil producers to stop funding CapEx activity. In 2020, the combination of years of overproduction and the demand shock from COVID lockdowns combined to not only slow CapEx but force stateside oil/LNG producers in the Permian Basin to shut down some of their operations. It’s not easy to turn off and turn back on oil wells, so now that the demand is back we’re left with a slightly decimated industry that can’t keep up with it and hasn’t been funding CapEx activity to be able to meet demand in the future. The guy sitting in the Oval Office has basically no control over any of this, and whether he blusters and blames others (Trump) or just sits and quietly hopes everyone gets over it (Biden) will make no difference to the prices. Supply and demand are what they are, and tend to move in very long, only slightly predictable patterns. If they were more predictable, we’d all be rich. :stuck_out_tongue:

As far as gas prices being higher in CA than US, yeah, dunno about that. Probably due to the US controlling most of the global trade network due to the US dollar being the dominant currency, which in turn goes back to WW2…

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Sorry but after decades of being raped at the pumps and big oil making billions off the backs of citizens I can’t agree. Now I am in Canada but if you think your president has no control I say you are mistaken. Just look at the taxes taken every time you fill up, that is totally under the control of the government. I am not saying they can wave a magic wand and make those who gouged us for umpteen billions over the years fix the system but to say they have not control is just not the case. The higher the prices go the bigger the cheque cut to the government gets so it’s hardly something they want to fix. Like most things even though fuel is a necessity it has been allowed to get out of control. Prices fluctuate not due to the price of oil but rather how much they can screw us for today. This is why every holiday weekend or other time when people go out you see the prices rise. I fell it’s pure and simple greed. Also it is very predictable, prices always go up, never down just as the profits shown by big oil companies always go up, never down. Pretty predictable.

I will say we are having this debate in the wrong thread so I will duck out. Have a great day all and I leave you with this to get back on track.

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Mrs Foreigner drives a diesel (a fun peppy one) and she gets wicked mileage and the price seems pretty consistent (truckers?)

But the maintenance is expensive so the cost savings is negligible. But it’s still great to go for long road trips and only use a quarter tank.

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I bet stopping oil production has no contribution for calif high price :thinking:

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Calif inflation is crazy ea 1 of the houses we own have gone up no less then 30 000 this yr I think we are close to 100,000 this yr glad there paid off. Coukd imagine trying to buy 1 now

Actually, the stations around me (SoCal) were between $2.79 to $2.88 from for over two years. The prices started going on January 23rd and continued to $3.99 where they have remained.

@Cormoran
Our prices in CA are anywhere from $0.75 to $1.00 more, as we are required to use a “reformulated” gas that is only used in one other state (Oregon I think) ad the keep raising the state gas tax (not for roads, though. They still suck)

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There about to raise it again in calif
There trying to push weed tax to 20 %
There raising cig tax you name it calif soon will tax us on how many walking steps u took in a day . Call it fitness tax

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And to look into peoples bank accounts anything 600 or over is insane and to think if bitcoin an other payments made not threw institution’s are not next to get regulated your wrong an once they get that info ouch. I still send SHN cash I go in the office an pay all bills in cash an have nothing in my name lol

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I wanna car powered by my own farts.
That way I eat :taco: = I get better Milage.
:taco: 's for :oncoming_automobile: 's I tell’s ya .
It’s the future!

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The president has some control over attempting to change laws and regulations for the term he’s in office, but the pendulum effect generally means that the other party is able to change things back the next term. The president also doesn’t get to tell the Senate, or all the other parts of government, or state governments, to ignore their own self-interest; which everyone inevitably follows first. Therefore representatives of people, corporations and states involved in the oil industry resist laws and regulation that would cut their profits. The government takes a cut from taxes, which can be changed, but again not entirely at the whim of the president. At best, he can appoint a regulator to the appropriate agency who he thinks will do what he wants - generally based on party lines.

California is sort of the progressives’ dream state, or nightmare depending on how you look at it. There, Dems actually do have pretty near complete control of the state apparatus and tend to tax like a socialist’s wet dream as a result. In that sense, maybe, you could say that it’s very slightly Biden’s fault that gas prices are up - he’s allowed California to sue the EPA over reducing fuel efficiency mandates during Trump’s term, and has installed people in office who will follow the party line and allow those fuel efficiency mandates to come back into play. That’s more of the pendulum effect I was talking about earlier, though. I still think the base price of oil is more about supply and demand, but there is an element of partisan politics to it, in that the Dems seem to think that they can starve out and kill oil companies by adding environmental regulations that push people towards alternative energy sources. Those environmental regulations either cut the oil companies’ profits, or more often come out of our pockets since there aren’t yet realistic alternative energy sources that are priced competitively even after government intervention. Unless the US actually had single-party governance for a period of decades, though, all these noble attempts to force technology and people into more environmentally-friendly roles will backfire and fail. No one president has the power to change that because no one president will stay in office long enough without catering to the selfish, short-term needs of a hundred million other people. Whether it would actually work in a totalitarian society is something China’s testing right now for us, though. :stuck_out_tongue:

5.94 a gallon here doing the conversion of 1.32 a litre and we’re in a oil and gas rich part of it still no breaks .

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