Here’s the Internet Archive saved Chimera forum:
And an ICMag thread about why it got closed- he didn’t pay the site:
https://www.icmag.com/threads/wheres-the-chimera-forum-and-why.18127239/
And a couple old grow logs still on the site, not all of them just a sampling:
Oh, well that’s makes sense I guess. So no big nefarious scheme?
Who really knows, but it sounds like he just walked away rather than fight with GN over whatever they wanted for sponsorship fees. Maybe he has something different to say about it but I imagine he just didn’t need to be there anymore, and let the chips fall.
This was a PM sent to gypsy from another member.
This might have something to do with it.
Thanks for the feedback Gypsy.
You, proverbially, can be charged with a crime–Conspiracy. The word conspiracy literally means, together we breathe. Together Dave colluded or breathed a collective breath with Phylos, in order to acquire cultivars from YOUR site dude. Then he skirts from the limelight when the people call him and Phylos out. Why is he allowed to mod/scrub/clean his participation in the ongoings of duplicity by deleting thread contributions? More importantly, why do you, Gypsy, condone his behavior? You have ultimate admin power and can access on the server ALL the logs. Re-post without modifying what Dave has said over the years so he can’t lie anymore.
Gyps, what was inflammatory about telling everyone the MANY ways which they are being taken advantage of, by whom and how they are connected? Especially when one of the people keeps “cleaning up” the pertinent 411 so others can’t be informed en mass? (Not talking about any of my posts) The only body mass that should feel an adverse-inflamed reaction to the truth is the one that is inflicting the breach of trust to begin with, aka; the LIAR. I believe everyone thinks Phylos is a lying institution, right? Dave advocated for Phylos right? He has time and again been near the nucleus of controversy right? The time you spent in the PI should encourage you to be a facilitator of truth and fidelity and not a full canopy providing shade or an operational platform for these vile creatures to do Satan’s work; aka Lie and deceive for personal/private group, gain.
Or this makes good sense too…
@shag you’re doing that thing. That thing where everything is about Sam and you’re ruining a perfectly good breeder thread with this. Why is that entire post about Sam without one mention of Ryan? You’re arguing from a position that would only make sense if I accepted that Sam is the Godfather and Ryan is one of his underlings. I don’t accept that! Also you just showed me something that could be from anyone, could have been written ten minutes or ten years ago. It’s not just off-topic, it’s irrelevant and it’s making my point that you’re a conspiracy spreader on here because it is not substantiated. Who is this person? What was their online handle? This would be basic information to make a convincing point, not another uncredited statement without a link, or screenshot.
Please stop and I would say take it to DM but I’m not going to respond. All I ask is that you stop talking about Sam in a Chimera thread out of respect to the OP and their intentions here. I don’t care about Sam and I hope I never hear his name mentioned again. I swear to god this is the most effective COINTELPRO shit ever making this man such an obsession for a generation of cannabis people to the point where they split the way we do about him into pro/con groups and weave this bullshit mythology of paranoia into every story. This is mental illness, specifically mass psychogenic illness, the way this thing makes someone as intelligent as you are waste your time talking crazy shit to someone like me who’s just like “whoa that dude is fucking insane” and disregards it instead of being a useful member of the community. That makes me sad, honestly, to see that potential wasted on this kind of conspiracy and the desperate need to be be affirmed in it. I literally and actually do not care at all about Sam Selezny, Sacred Seeds, Skunk, any of that. I am here to read and talk about Chimera Genetics as the title says and I hope that this thread gets cleaned up, half of my posts included, honestly let’s just try this breeder guide again.
As @JustANobody said, maybe that’s enough internet for the night, I’ll check back here tomorrow and see how it went.
that probably has some merit to it as well but I know from first hand experience following a few other folks I know here in Canada that many of the more well known “players” in the seed game and the chemistry/concentrates fields have turned thier outlaw knowledge into paying careers in the legit framework. They also scrubbed the internet forums of thier involvement in the illicit realms. Peak seeds would be one of the more well known entities to most of us although I am not sure as to what lengths he has or hasn’t scrubbed past activity. I do know he has closed many lines of communication that he held with folks I am familiar with.
anyhow, back to the show. I’m not interested in rehashing the sam stuff anymore either but there is a real underbelly to some of these people and it shouldn’t just be ignored because the truth was actively scrubbed from the internet. I posted some flower shots to get the thread back on track so to speak. If we just let it be about the plants than so be it but I’ll never grow his stuff again.
I might even just give these supposed Jack Floss seeds away. as I don;t have space any time soon to grow them out.
Why am I even here?
Oh ya, You were doing that thing …where you talk about me behind my back, that and you kinda called me a liar. 
Both Chimera and sam were joined at the hip with the phylos thing.
So anything phylos related relates to ryan the same as sam.
How do I know?
I was there at the time.
That is fine…I am used to you not accepting you are wrong.
Sure, but the fact is it is not, so no need to speculate about it.
In a roundabout way you seem to be suggesting I am lying.
I don’t appreciate that.
Cause you said so?
Replace sams name with ryan and every word is right on topic.
Those two were running around collecting genetics together.
By who …you?..LOL
I find it very telling that 3 of us here are sayin’ the same thing but you are sure we all must wrong.
The other 2 don’t seem to agree on much but they agree on this.
I wonder why?
Cause we are not lying.
I was there from the start.
There are soo soo many others who can corroborate my story.
They were there too.
So quit with the conspiracy BS would ya.
You don’t belive anything I say so maybe do your own research.
I speak the truth.
I said bring your boy @Chimera here and we can have a civil debate on this matter.
Anything you do not choose to believe becomes some kind of conspiracy theory.
That shit gets old brother…time for a new trick.
No amount of nay saying will change my tune.
I was there…I need not convince you, I can not, even when you are proven wrong… 
I would not even be in this thread had you not insinuated I was a liar.
Your little psychological games don’t work on me, so save that for the gullible.
I can see that you like to make personal attacking posts about how you feel about my mental capacity.
I would appreciate if you no longer made those comments.
That is unless you would like to debate your mental prowess.
You seem to like to talk bad about me behind my back and when I try to defend myself you seem take issue with that.
So maybe don’t talk about me behind my back and I will not need to enter the thread to defend myself.
Maybe just don’t talk about anyone behind their back, that would be my advice.
I am done talking about this too.
If you wish we can continue this debate in the phylos thread.
If anyone has grown any of his cali-o hybrids would love to see some pics or feed back
I tried to grow some orange bud back in the day from dutch passion and not only were the germ rates horrible but anything that hatched was a weak wack mutant
Heard alot of good things about chimeras work with the aeric77 clone
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Maybe I’ll have a coffee first…I seem to be pretty worked up…lol
3:42am…morning world. 
Troutman is legit…and really knows his shit
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How was that coffee, @Tappy ?
Needed something stronger than coffee…lol. Not sure why my head was filled with negativity. The day was overall positive, but I really had to force it. I think I’m still flustered about the pre98 pollen fuckup from the other day.
I don’t know who chimera is…but nobody taking my seeds. If they want genetic testing what I’m growing they can test the ashes.
Chimera’s C4 was Cotton Candy x Shishkaberry
That particular C4 #2 was a big time old school shishka leaner and I sure wish I had cloned it.
If anyone here likes the science component that goes hand in hand with what we all do!
You know
testing testing testing! All that exceptional cannabis we grow!!
Making tinctures etc….
I have some very interesting “Lab Results”
I’d love to share with anyone!
Message me!
It has a really funny story behind it I’d LOVE to share!
Hit up my DM
Much love OGs!
If anyone has been waiting on a message back from Breeders Retail, I finally received a reply from them, several deaths in the organization left them locked out of the email. Menu is shorter than I remember but still great.
anyone grow out either of these:
C-Plus (Ae77 Cali-O x Blueberry)
Grapefruit x Blueberry
That’s unfortunate to hear. Thanks for the update, it’s helpful to know, and I’m sure it’s helpful for others to know as well.
There are some great reviews of these two Blueberry hybrid’s on Icmag that have left a lasting impression on me wanting to try them. The grapefruit Blueberry especially. They’re definitely two of the varieties I’d be pretty interested in on the menu, along with Mental Floss if still available. I think Blueberry types are wonderful and make great hybrids so there’s definitely a bit of bias in my comment. Had a pack of each back in the day and gave them to a buddy but they got lost in the shuffle. While I’d like to collect both again, if I had to choose just one I’d go with the Grapefruit Blueberry for the nostalgia of Spice of Life and the Sweet Tooth work. Bumping this hoping others can chime in with their experience too! Many blessings and much love
I just sprouted some GF x BB, feeling pretty optimistic about them. They say it’s excellent genetics; I’ve seen some positive reviews about them already.
@Pajarito se liga, mano
Thanks for posting all this info that I thought was lost with the closure of his IC forum.
Chimera Mountain Jam (Soulshine x blueberry) was the first seed bank purchase I made and I am still growing f2s some 16 years later.
This tent contains a combo of Citra Paradiso and GF x BB. 4 inch pots, coco, Jacks, LED.
One Citra is close to finishing in 8 weeks, the other will probably take all 10 (I have to chop these before I leave for vacation at the end of the month.)
I think all the GF x BB will be finished on time, and I took a bit from 5 different males and spanked everything in the tent with the pollen. So we’ll get some of these back in some form or another.
I have about 70-80% of the whole Chimera collection waiting in the fridge. But I have to work on some other repros first. I think the HM x BB is high on that list. So I might be back sooner than later.
Last season I also ran some Medina x BH and Bubba x BH. I should have some pictures around here somewhere… Oh and the MF x BH I ran at work. Those pics are amazing. Gotta find those.
(Edit: As a new account, I guess I have to spread some images out across a couple posts.)
