Coronavirus Facts and Fiction - January - May 2020 [Closed]

How did this get construed as me trusting the government and pharmaceutical companies?

Someone always makes money anytime anything happens. Someone is always in a position to profit no matter how the cards fall.

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Presumptuous from the above comment. Clearly you hold big pharmaceutical in a higher regard than me, to think they wouldnt make you sick, so you could pay them to make you better.

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Righto ladsā€¦ Share a spliff and keep smiling.

In any case it might be time to slowly stock up on food though just in case it comes down to self isolation for a few weeks.

ā€¦achoo :cold_sweat:

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I read if you get the virus in Aus they just ship you off to Christmas Island. :rofl::v:

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Only the imports are getting quarantined there.
I think the place is pretty much a jail.

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They once said that about the entire continentšŸ¤”

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Hahahaha love it :island:

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Not taking sides in this one, but I trust Big Pharma as far as I trust China! Do I think that they are capable of producing a killerā€¦YESā€¦did theyā€¦IDK. The other real possibility could be a manufactured biological weapon getting loose, mutating and creating global havoc. I still wonder how Ebola happened.

Remember the Perdue family and how they made countless millions selling Opioidsā€¦knowing full well that the death toll was rising and that the Opioid epidemic was a danger to society and out of control. Their reps were recorded pushing their clients (doctors and pharmacies) to prescribe even moreā€¦even though they knew what was happeningā€¦It took a multi state lawsuit to even slow them down.
The entire lot should be tossed in the clink, but noā€¦$$ talks and donā€™t even get me started on the FDA!

The gouging going on with masks, freeze dried foods etc shows what fear, coupled with greed will do.

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Glad to see there are still rational stoners. This whole thread has been a pretty big facepalm to be honest. Everything that happens on earth isnā€™t some ridiculous conspiracy. Why is it that some people think they have some long lost or special secret knowledge no one else has. If there really was a conspiracy of any type I highly doubt anyone is gonna break it wide open by looking at shitty websites and using google, but it seems like every bad thing that happens or shows on the news thereā€™s always someone claiming that the illuminati or some organization did it with absolutely zero proof or garbage evidence.

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:thumbsup: have to second that @neogitus

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Well I see I didnt miss much in this tinfoil hat party lol

Jeeze

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Walmart still has a few left , best 10 dollars I have ever spent
I shit you notā€¦

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We know exactly how Ebola happened. People eating bushmeat. Which is why it keeps cropping up in West/Central Africa.

Coronavirus happened the same way. Zoonotic viruses have had scientists worried for years.

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I havenā€™t seen that explanationā€¦This one from familydoctor.com seems more prevalent:

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What causes Ebola virus disease?

The exact cause of EVD is unknown. Scientists believe that it is animal-borne and most likely comes from bats, which transmit the Ebola virus to other animals and humans. There is no proof that mosquitos or other insects can transmit the virus. Once infected, a person can spread the virus to other people.

The Ebola virus is not as contagious as common viruses, such as colds or the flu. It is not spread through air, water, or food. The Ebola virus is spread through direct contact with:

Blood of a person infected with the virus.
Body fluids, such as breast milk, stool, saliva, semen, sweat, urine, or vomit, of a person infected with the virus.
Objects, such as needles or syringes, that are contaminated with the virus.
Animals, such as bats and primates, that are infected with the virus.

Direct contact means that a personā€™s eye, mouth, nose, or broken skin touches contaminated blood, fluids, or an object. Broken skin may be a cut, scratch, scrape, or open wound.

For most people, the risk of being infected with the Ebola virus is extremely low. The risk increases if you:

Travel to an area where known EVD outbreaks have occurred.
Help take care of someone infected with the virus.
Have direct contact with a person infected with the virus. Even an infected dead body can still spread the virus."
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Cannabis culture, for better and worse, has a lot of overlap with counterculture, which includes a lot of conspiracy theorists. I see it constantly. Modern day occultism (I possess this hidden knowledge, only I am privy to the inner workings mentality).

Conspiracy theorism follows religious tendencies. The world is complicated and people have trouble making sense of it. I know I do. Itā€™s easier to say ā€œevil men in the shadows did itā€ than to critically look at the issue. To complicate matters, a small portion of conspiracies are probably true, but they get lost in the lizard people/flat earth/hollow earth/Hillary is an alien nonsense.

It does comfort me that if an Illuminati-type organization existed, secretly pulling every string, power behind every throne, with total control of world affairs, then thereā€™s nothing you, I, or anyone else can do about it, and we should stop worrying and try to live life best we can.

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Here is 173 reasons why they were told to keep quiet and change the story, probably find they will all die strangely in the next year as well lol.

From an earlier post by Mongo. Chinaā€™s central bank announced plans Sunday to inject 1.2 trillion yuan ($173 billion) into the economy to cushion the shock to financial markets from the outbreak of a new virus when trading resumes on Monday.

This is what I said, I didnā€™t say they created it, just possibly released it.

Governments are always experimenting on their and other nations peoples.

No they didnā€™t have the technology then to fuck with viruses they were still working on perfecting chlorine gas as a chemical weapon.

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IDK man if there was serious, credible evidence that the virus was man made somehow, donā€™t you think it would be much much bigger news? Itā€™d be the #1 headline.

Edit: Shadey said. why is this quote box all fucked up lol.
Governments control what you here and see on the news, Why do you think you see or hear nothing, about what Chinese Government is doing in Tibet, or what the Israeli government is doing to the Palestinians. Information is blocked, in the UK its called a D notice, for Dangerous Do Not Distribute.

Edit: Shadey.
Pharmaceutical companies donā€™t care about people just the money.

They same happened with Thlamidomide they carried on selling it, and denying it was the cause of horrible birth deformities even when the mounting evidence was undeniable.

The same is happening with vaccines, they have safer alternatives with adjuvant not containing huge doses of mercury, but they wont start using it, until all the old stuff is sold first. The term they use is, Phasing out old stock.

Japan has the lowest vaccine administration in children, and the healthiest children than any other country with the lowest mortality rate in early years of life.

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You would have an HIV epidemic spread by touch or an airborne virus, not transmitted by sexual or blood contact, which is more difficult to contract in that way. That sounds pretty devastating to me.

I doesnā€™t have to be a conspiracy, for me its more of an interesting speculation, on how I see government corporations and big business conducting themselves on the planet. I am just connecting the dots in an alternate way. Some people find its to disturbing to contemplate, but its happening all the time. As I said I am a cynical bastard.

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Itā€™s not up for debate. This isnā€™t a controversial opinion.

Bushmeat. People eat and hunt bats over there, homie. Bats live in large colonies that have their own viruses. Zoonotic viruses can transmit to people, which is why they are so dangerous, because we have no immunity to animal borne viruses.

The same situation happened in China. At a wild animal bushmeat market.

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All I can think is that peeps who buy into these complicated elaborate conspiracy theories can obviously never have worked in government! Most departments are hard pressed getting their stationary order together let alone some multi hundred person conspiracy where NOBODY has an attack of guilt and spills the beansā€¦

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Critically looking at an issue does mean evaluating a variety possibilities. It does not invalidate the possibilities that delve outside of the mainstream theories but instead assigns a probability and an avenue of research. We donā€™t have a lot of good provable information at this point. Locking yourself into a single train of thought and blasting the ā€œtin-foilā€ horn is rather the opposite. What you mean to say is, Zoonotic spread is currently the most probable scenario.

Opinions are always up for debate.

With that said, the official claim about Coronavirus 2019 nCoV is that it ā€œappears to have originated in the Huanan Seafood Wholesale Market in Wuhan, a Chinese city about 650 miles south of Beijingā€¦" [6]

But, then again, ā€œThe SARS virus has escaped from high-level containment facilities in Beijing multiple timesā€ [7][8]

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Conspiracy theorism does more harm than good. Ebola came from bushmeat/bats. If you have an alternative theory, Iā€™m all ears. I donā€™t consider the tinfoil crowd to have equal standing of consideration to medical doctors and scientists.

I can create a conspiracy out of thin air, it doesnā€™t mean it warrants scrutiny. As well, most conspiracies donā€™t hold water if you look at them objectively for a few minutes. The problem is, people want to believe them. Itā€™s a natural inclination we seem to have.

I live in a University town with a big medical campus and thereā€™s also pharmaceutical labs here. If I get sick it isnā€™t because researchers at the university let an infected rhesus monkey escape. Itā€™s because itā€™s flu season. Everything is technically possible all the time, I donā€™t have the wherewithal to deal with the infinitesmal. If it rains, it could be the Russians controlling the weather, or it could be a cold front moving in.

I donā€™t know, agree to disagree I guess, doesnā€™t sound like anyone is going to change their minds.

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