I was talking more about income taxes and housing costs. With smokes being $15 a pack just insane. When I was in Rhode island for what I pay for a 3/2 I would get a basement in a shit neighborhood if I was lucky. Just about everything was more expensive in NY so I’d hate to see housing costs
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Holy shit!! $15 a pack? And I bitch about paying $50 for a carton!!
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it is indeed 
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Dude on my way up there in a crane I stopped in Virginia and bought $3500 in cigarettes lol was only like 45 a carton. When I got up RI I was selling them for 8 a pack and made a killing lol that first week I made more selling cigarettes than on my check lol
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Bummer man! If there’s EVER a vote that would allow other states to help some of the less progressive states GET WITH THE PROGRAM, then TRUST this California guy will be on it for YOU ALL! We’re getting there but the pace has slowed it seems, with COVID19 and all, understandable, but for those still getting caught in the line of fire and the fallout from all that life upheaval, I guess its not happening quickly enough.
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Exactly and twenty characters why its TOTALLY fitting at who that schlep has aligned himself with now!
I just paid $80 for my girls carton and I was like, WHOA! Its been awhile since I bought a carton but when I did it was like $40!
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I am now old enough to remember the “good ole days”. Got married in 1992 and the wife and I smoked Harley Davidson cigarettes at 65 cents a pack!!
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Ooh, nice! The cheapest cigs were for me were around $4 or $5. I was 14 in '92 and didn’t start smoking until my 20’s so that means in 6 to 8 years cigs raised from $0.65 to $5.00! Thats A LOT!!!
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New York City and the Hudson Valley heading north all the way to Saratoga Springs has lots of people. Anywhere down by the city is ridiculous expensive. My tiny house would sell for a half a million down there. I’ve heard of people paying 25 thousand a year in property tax. But those same people, that bought a house for 500 Grand 10 years ago, can sell it for 1.2 million today. And they can buy a farmhouse with a hundred acres for a little bit over $100,000 if they moved far enough away from the city . So I guess it’s all relative. The cost of living, and the wages are higher downstate. I’m in a poor County, but our taxes are some of the worst in the country. Top 100 most expensive counties in the country. I may have to move by @dequilo after this covid bs! Too many people lately.
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Thank you. I appreciate the sentiment. I’m getting too old for this shit. I just want to grow my damn plants and be left alone. The latest word is that it will be worse to get caught with plants after legalization in this state. Massive fine or take your house
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TAKE YOUR HOUSE? ok, THAT is the SHIT that we NEED to protest against! Its a joke, not literally, that THAT shit is still happening@
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Yeah, its Draconian to say the least! I would imagine a new arm of the law will be used, similar to ATF. I don’t know. King Cuomo wants all the money, and people like me would be great customers if we didnt grow our own. Far from ending the war on drugs, this would kick it up a notch( several). Thing is, our commie state likes to pass laws at just after midnight on a Sunday( safe act gun law). They are sneaky about it, giving no chance for protest. I hate the politics here. Our Gov’t has NO qualms about going against the wishes of its populace, going to great lengths to do so.
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I agree. As far as our government being able to do sneaky shit that most of us are clueless Yup, because we’re not Law Students. Now, this goes BOTH ways and, Brother, I certainly do not wanna argue about which is what and what is which, but I DO STRONGLY BELIEVE that we must ALL START WORKING LIKE OUR PLANT FRIENDS DO, IN SYMBIOSIS and NOT at the polar extremes we seem to be these days! VOTE AND VOTE YOUR CONSCIENCE!! The best you can is the best we can expect!
Love!
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Here cigarettes went from $5 to $10 to pack overnight. So your average minimum wage smoker ( when this happened) went from paying 10% of their income a week( $350 take home at $10/hr, 40 hrs … $35 for cigarettes/week) up to 20% of their income per week for cigarettes if they smoked one pack a day. That’s a crazy increase, and the increase you saw was crazy. Too much of an increase way too fast.
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ALL START WORKING LIKE OUR PLANT FRIENDS DO, IN SYMBIOSIS and NOT at the polar extremes we seem to be these days!
[/quote. Amen to that! We could learn alot about cooperation from plants.
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I can always count on you for some diplomatic comedy!! 
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I agree. These tax increases, though cloaked in “positive reform of health” they affect the POOR and DISENFRANCHISED before they affect the upper classes and I got to say, I hardly think its a deterrent but for the poor cause WE CAN’T AFFORD IT. However, if the poor were the ONLY ones smoking, the tax increase might help the health issues. But we are not the only smokers out there and so making cigarettes less affordable is NOT A REALISTIC DETERRENT
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It all goes back to us needing leaders who can UNITE ALL OF US SO THAT WE CAN MEET A COMMON GOAL AND FIX THE PROBLEMS WE FACE EVERY DAY!
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