Sounds like a strain that would do well in my tin box . I like large girls !
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they will be getting a prime spot under a couple of 600 watt single ended bulbs
they will be on the floor and have about 7 foot of head room from the top of the soil
but get too tall I will cut the growing tip out of them to slow them down
may not need to 
be safe and stay free
Dequilo
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looking at our grow thread they should work very nice for you 
if I make beans with them I will send some your way for sure
side note The Clown got back to me on Wakeford 2.0 he also has
some Petrolia Headstash bx seeds that a seed whore like me cannot live without
all the best and be safe
Dequilo
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F2 you should they grow very well they have great vigor I will make some beans
if I get a female with 4 plants and my luck I see males in my future
the short one maybe a lady
but if I get all males I will save pollen and hit a short hard budded Hash Plant with
and see what I get
all the best and thanks for the beans
Dequilo
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OK all you great LED Gurus a question about LED light as I am not in
the know 
with HID lights as a rule but not a hard one
I always figure a 400 watt light will cover a 40 inch by 40 inch foot print
and will let me grow plant 40 inches tall from the soil
like this
bud top to bottom or do LEDs not work this way, not sure but I believe the question
how far does LED light penetrate the canopy?
I do understand the inverse square law
and how light falls off very fast in strength after leaving the source
so can one cover 40 inches by 40 inches with a plant 40 inches tall from the soil
and get buds from top to bottom?
thanks for helping this old guy with a new trick 
Dequilo
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I lollipop. But I really would like to hear what people have to say about it. I really believe it would depend on the diodes. Better the diode the better penetration. But I’m pretty sure some folks are going to say your not going to be able to get those kind of results from LEDs.
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we will see as I am sure not up to speed at all
that is why the one I am building I will do Sea of Greens with clones on a shelf
in 6 inch square pots and no veg
they will make buds just no sure what they will do in a grow room like mine
I will be seeing a 350 to 400 light bill
and might like to save a buck or two
Dequilo
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Hi bro I switched from MH and HPS 6 years ago
It took a bit to get use too , there is a learning curve
A few things I noticed
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Less heat is a biggie the plants did not dry out as fast
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There’s a need to keep an eye out for cal mag deficiency
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no loss in yield
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more colorful buds ( genetics depending)
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lower energy cost ( but that just made me increase the amount of tents
) -
winter may need to add heat to grow area
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faster veg
I started with 2 Mars hydro purple and for all the negative hype about Mars they lasted me 5 full years at nonstop use and they did produce well
My new lights ( California lightworks 500 and hgt quantum board I forgot the model )are full spectrum white light so far I like them better easy on the eyes no need for the led sun glasses
Paps
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@Papalag thanks for your insight
sidenote just cloned the Bubba Gum Kush ( smells like Bazooka Joe) if you want
some I will have some soon
all the best and be well
Dequilo
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Im using the HLG 550s in 4x4 tents for flowering . I agree with everything @Papalag just said . Also some strains may be more bushy / leafy . Penetration may vary with strain or how you train / trim etc. Just saying. 
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@Floyd I see the will cover a 5 x5 at 36 inches and are drawing 500 or so actual
watts
they look like a good light and they a good warranty
there are things to learn so I will have to start to read and build my light
then run it over plants and grow
thank s for your insight it helps to hear what other do
Dequilo
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what a pretty nice cross! we are planing a lil STS femming of some autos… a cross like this would give a great test object . how long will they take fom sprout to chop?
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@dequilo. I know with my LED, he recommends keeping the light 12-18” away. So I am either raising and lowering the light or raising the plants. I had the top of plants 6” away last grow and didn’t burn the plant.
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Yeah I drop mine down closer during flower. 12-18 is the recommendation. I like to see how much she will take. But 6". Thats Ballsy! Lol.
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my grow room cost me 11.50 $ a day to run with 14 hours of light at
3000 watts
I might try for now hanging 8 - 4 ft. - 42 watt LEDs down the 16 foot length spaced and
try at first running my HIDs 12 hours and the LEDs a hour at the start of the day
then a hour at the end of the day
which save me 50 buck a month and then try 2 hours and 2 hours with
10 hours of HIDs
to see if this will keep them out of flower the 10 - 12 hours of 3000 watts will
still make them grow
just thinking out load and maybe someone has done the same thing
be safe and grow well
Dequilo
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Well that has been an evolving answer. 
HIDs whack out a lot of photons from a point source (yes, not a point source but close enough).
LEDs are a lot weaker but there’s lots more of them. So, if you spread them out
There is significantly less shadowing going on (so penetration is better) but my feeling is HID still rules (first grow with them so still sorting it out).
Although LEDs are cheaper to run$$.
Cheers
G
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Good Day My Friend nice to see you stop by
I do like HIDs as they are very straight forward not a lot of thought you want more
light, Grow a bigger plants, cover more area
crank them up throw watts at your plants and grow they will
I would like to blend the two to get the best of both of them just need to figure out
how to do it my grow room
for me I will never have a smaller room again I have work cramped in a small
spaces, hall closets and it sucked ass
I am adding another 8 foot by 16 foot on soon so I need to work this out
or hang another 3000 watts
but I am not looking forward to 500 - 600 light bill as I am not a Cash Cropper
just a hobby hack
Thank God in Heaven that spring will come because God cranks the watts
and also pays the bill
I look forward to having hundreds of plants outside this year
grow well and be safe
Dequilo
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Another t town brother! Right on!
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I though some are getting 1.5-2x the yield and more resin with the new leds? That means something. You will rock it once you get them dialed in.
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I found the patch miserable myself. Good money though. It was one of my many layoffs as well.
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