Yep from this year…photo taken today. Im at 42 N also. She doesn’t get complete full sun maybe 6 plus hours though.
Good to hear!
I labelled it but will need to double check. Everything else is just starting.
I this year propagate the line Friesland bx f2. By the way, I pollinated Early grape and some plant from Serious seeds.
stunning ladies there…and boys as well
welcome over here,Bro!
Does anyone have Pluton 2? (M45) I know you can get it…but I don’t know who might have the seeds .
I’m Dutch and my father’s mother was from Friesland.Originally the people from Friesland has Danish Viking blood.Never mess with the Fries.
A few years ago I asked the guy who called himself d9 if he knew the history about Friesland indica.This was his answer.
This was the guy btw who worked with Nevil at the time of the Seed Bank.
Someone asked if I knew anything about Friesland.
I know it isn’t really relevant to this thread as it was a SSSC strain, but is close to my heart, as it is a northern bullet proof strain.
I did a lot of research on this, as well as grew it for many
years and still do. As you probably know Friesland is the Northern
most province in the Netherlands. It was bred there for quickness
and mold resistance there.
My final conclusion is that it is a Balochistan Hash plant from Pakistan.
There was a lot of Baloch hash in the coffeeshops in Adam in the 70s and 80s so I figured it came from someone who brought seeds from there with the hash. And it has the same acrid profile and bud structure. If you look up pics online you will see what I mean.
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I have some M33 from Whish/Kwik/TRSC going and they are great plants so far, but there is lots of variation. I’m sure they have maintained an open approach to the seedline for preservation, but it would be nice if anyone in this thread could list any phenotypic traits of some of their favorite male and female plants.
I haven’t found much variation other than pink pistil pheno. Taste is very similar. Ranging from pure pine to pine with citrus. Structure is very uniform. Very much an ibl in my opinion. Curious what variation you are seeing?
Is this M33 you speak of? And its piney? I may have to try to locate these. Did you get from Seed Bank. Do you know who breeder is? Thanks.
Ha ha! This is much more difficult to convey in photos than I thought - you have made me look very closely.
One of the biggest differences is between a couple of the males.
You can see the nodal spacing is twice as long in M33-2-M as it is in M33-4-M. I can’t tell which has a slight but nice good ol’ weed smell in the veg cabinet, but I’ll figure it out.
Then there are some differences that are more easily seen as they begin flowering.
M33-1-M is more of a main stem no branching profile, M33-2-M has leaves that are another 1/3rd bigger than the others and has zero sign of being in temperatures down below 10C at night (testing who deals with lower temps), while the others have more of that slight curl to the leaves when they get unhappy from the cold.
M33-5-F has similar structure to M33-4-M, but has no smell at all, whether you do a stem rub, or manipulate the leaves.
To continue with aromas, M33-1-M, has a little bit of a pleasant fruity/spicy stem rub, M33-2-M has no stem rub smell, but may have an overall nice weed smell, and M33-4-M has a mushroom smell to its stem rub.
As I have not flowered out any female M33 yet, I don’t know if there are markers for good phenos.
Thanks again for the challenge
Nice write up @cannaloop ! Looks like the m33 to me. Granted I have only ran her outside. Curious to see how they like the indoors. Best of luck and keep us posted on your progress!
i have 4 Friesland plants from sssc
three girls and one boy
two girls can be purple and one remains green (even at low temperatures).
red petioles of fan leaves (not from phosphorus)
the cone has quite a lot of leaves
rigid branch structure, holds its weight well.
smells like raw earth… or cardboard or maybe wet wood, like an old stump
Those look SO cool! Thanks for sharing man!!!
I’m going to study the hell out of your photos and hope my one lone M33 girl looks as frosty as those!
You can see how the physical characteristics noted above are now more noticeable. I have eliminated the single/pole columnar M33-1-Male, because of its structure, sparse flowers, and lack of any interesting smell. Could be totally wrong here, but I don’t like it and need to eliminate some plants - full house for me.
this is such a good thread.
Interesting seeing these being grown inside and some very nice results too guys.
I’m at nearing 52N 3000ft elevation and have been running light deps every summer or I wouldn’t be able to grow outside. I have Sheberghan and Friesland and next summer it’s going to be interesting as I am going to run them full season which for me is mid june to end of september. I’m going to have to start them inside and set the light timer to match the day length of the actual day they go outside (june 10 typically). I don’t have space in my plans over winter to grow any out indoors. I am hoping I find a few fast ladies and gents to begin acclimating those plants to my region if it can be done… I think it can
Yikes hey? I’m south of you by a little and at 2500 ft and it is a really tough go.
One promising thing about these plants that I can share is that they are true photoperiod plants. The Freezland from other sources like the defunct Bush Brothers definitely have ruderalis in them somewhere and you could tell really quickly, even before showing sex.
Do you have any knowledge about the Beanhoarder Freeze lines?
Are any of those old school ones you have mentioned like Viper candidates for you?
I’m guessing there is a similar reason that you aren’t working those old guerilla semi-autos either - not much fun to lose a plant you like and to try to find it again, and the quality was never quite there.
I had some East Island Dutch Treat (semi autos - could never keep a mother) that were fairly good plants, but never really found anything that was worth keeping or pursuing when playing around with those.
Using a solar calculator, I’m guessing that you are going to need to try to find a plant that will want to start flowering at 15.5 hours of light, to finish by the end of September. If I find anything that I think will help you, it’s yours. Don’t usually have to twist our arms too much to come up there and meet for a burger - some of the best anywhere