Extreme Overnight Clawing - NO BUGS

One of my Gojis was lush and pretty and then a day and a half later it clawed -

First thing I thought was broad mites or mites in general but I’ve scanned this plant for 3 days with a 60x and 90x and nothing I haven’t seen anything move or look like it can move.

I thought about wind burn (there was a passive intake near it but I’ve quarantined it in another tent away from direct wind and it hasn’t improved. One peculiar thing is the top pistils are browning (and it’s not even 3rd week after flip)

it wasn’t that close to the light to be heat or light stress either.

I get frustrated at these cases.

The medium is peat with vermiculite and perlite, ph 5.8 - 62, soiless. EC 1.3

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My first guess would be excessive nitrogen. What pH are you doing?

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ph is high 5 low 6. usually 5.8 to 6.2 - all plants get the same feed tho - none of the others are showing clawing

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That’s slightly low for in flower.

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im soiless tho

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This was my first guess. maybe she’s just sensitive to the N. I would cut out any Cal/Mag and stop feeding Nitrogen.

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You use peat, I do too. I feed a range of 6.0 to 7.0 in flower.

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im very curious why cut calcium/magnesium ?

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Calcium in cal/mag is often Calcium Nitrate
edit: throw in some Epsom salts if you’re worried about deficiency in Mag

also, I’m in the same boat as @leetdood , I’m no expert by any means, so take my advice with a grain or two of salt.

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Mind you, I’m not an expert. I’m just saying your range seems a touch low to me. It could be contributing and causing some sort of lockout.

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Just a brief overview of how nutrient interactions are complex; and a lockout could easily happen.

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This kind of thing can be really annoying. If your other plants are happy though, I wouldn’t read too much into it. Some plants are fussy as hell, and will be near impossible to keep perfectly healthy.

One thing you might consider is making sure the media dries out. Vermiculite holds a ton of water, and is very easy to overwater.

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Very good point.

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oh ok true, that makes sense.

thats a really nice chart to have around, ill add it to my notes. thanks¡

yup, other plants are doing well. i quarantined it for the last 3 or 4 days, to see whats up with her but no improvements. ill keep her like that for the next 10 days… see how it goes.

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I don’t use the chart itself, it’s more a reminder of what my friend told me- slap a bandaid on a problem and you might just make it worse because you didn’t really understand it, and that nutrient interactions exist.

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This has happened to me before. I thought it was overwatering. I let it dry. No improvement. It didn’t get any worse but it never got better either. It finished just fine.

I never did figure it out.

Yours looks slightly worse than mine did.

Also based on your pistils mine happened at around the same time too.

Good luck

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wind damage doesn’t ‘improve’ those leaves are done for. I’m leaning towards wind damage also. Pistils will brown out early if they are rubbed or roughed up…even another leaf tip rubbing against the flower cluster will kill all the pistils. and since there’s significant leaf damage, but no real pistil kill-off and the leaves are all green still…it’s not a root thing…it’s not nutes…must be perfect storm of long duration wind stripping those leaves of life.

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@anon58740919 said nitrogen toxicity :blush:

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no,lol…not nitro tox or the entire fkn plant would be having problems.
edit…i dont like colanoscopy, said some wrong shit one day.

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