Plant is from a clone. The problem is starting towards the top of the plant and is working its way down. The very top and the bottom of the plant are far less effected.
The first sign is like the eagle claw that happens from nitrogen toxicity. The leaves also sometimes fold downwards, almost flat.
Then as it gets worse the tips of the leaves feel wilted. Soft like old lettuce. Pretty quickly the sun starts cooking them and they dry up. Eventually kills the leaf.
Its frustrating. I thought it had to do with humidity. Mine is in the low 30’s. Temperature is fine. But after reading so many people say their humidity never caused these problems I am at a loss.
The mother plant, nor the clones have ever been fertilized. Only grown in Fox farms ocean mix.
This plant is a sister plant, same strain but different momma. It is far less effected, but still has the eagle claw flat leaves half way up for some reason.
It could be a combo of too much N with a PH imbalance. The N causing the clawing and the PH causing a lockout that the low humidity is giving a small window to try and fix
Their ph has never changed though. They have literally only had bottled water for their entire life. Not even tap water. I don’t know how the ph made such a swing. They did get knocked over by my cat and subsequently had a rough transplant. I suppose it could be transplant shock/root damage. But I am still not sure that explains it.
Hi there
The fox farm ocean forest is a hot mix
An established plant being transferred into will do just fine but a newly rooted clone won’t it’s just too hot
I’ve had the same issues using Ocean forest I would mix happy frog with ocean forest and had better results
I do feel that @misterbee is correct
Just my 2 cents
Try to flush your plant if its ph issues or lockout this will help if it’s hot soil it will also help
Thank you, and everybody. Now that you mention it I did buy a new brand of bottled water when all this started. I don’t know why, but I just assumed bottled water had a standard ph. I have no reason to believe that, it was an ignorant assumption. I will have to check the ph. Or at least go back to buying the brand that never caused issues.
It may very well be a combination of different issues. Root damage, transplant shock, and potentially ph issues from the water I was using.
If your feeding your plant check the ph after you add fertilizer it ph will change once you add things
Also check ph of your run off if hi flush
I too use to believe that it was a waste of time to check ph every time oh how wrong I was once I started checking everything all my issues cleared up
All issues start with ph
I would also use distilled water but stopped
Tap water has a great deal of minerals that the plant needs
If there’s a chlorine problem with the water just fill a bucket and let it sit for 24 hours and the chlorine will disparate or add an air pump to the bucket
Oh yeah bottle water can vary greatly between brands from fairly acidic to very alkaline. I would def recommend going back to the brand you had used in the past without issue
Def agree. Looks like to much nitro … and a potassium def/lockout. Agree to fox farm runs hot so you have to really be careful adding nutes to the hot soil mixes. Just defoliate the damaged leaves. Ph neutral water… and LITFA. Peace!!
You have to balance your humidity with your heat. You should find a VPN chart.
If your humidity is low and heat is on the medium to high side your plants will expirate more, using more water they will uptake more nutrients as well. Potassium is a water regulator in plants as in humans, so you need to up your K in low humidity.
You have N toxicity and the tacoing is from the low humidity and or heat, it could also be the light is to strong, as the leaves get darker they absorb more light and get hotter, the leaves are cupping to create a microclimate around the leaves to reduce expiration and surface area to the light to keep cooler.
You need to either lower your heat or raise the humidity, re pot the plant and add something neutral to your soil like peatmoss to reduce its N strength or flush it enough to reduce the N in the soil. I had this problem of N tox most of last year in my no till soil, I mistook light burn, after switching to more powerful LEDs, as the plants being hungry, and over Fed them. I solved it by adding 20% peat moss and another 10% perlite into my soil.
