FBSC Manga Rosa and Paraguay 2022

8 Manga Rosa seeds: from Exotic Alchemy.

10 Paraguay #4 seeds: from Doja of The Echelon Collective.

Donor: @Upstate

@Guitarzan, Hope everything is alright, open for suggestions…

The plants will be planted outdoors, this should end in May, June, maybe July… We will have a long way…

Onset: Seeds arrived on 11/22.

Germination: 11/23
Immersion in water with drops of lactating cow’s urine.

After 24 hours, they went to wet wipes.

Earthworm humus substrate and carbonized rice husks.

Sorry for the translation, any questions please ask.
Let’s try to understand each other…

I did a survey to contextualize the subject, to understand our reality.

Thanks for the support of everyone, especially @upstate, which gave me the opportunity to contribute to the community, and preserve these special varieties.


Great seedling numbers! Awesome! This will be a very unique seedrun. BACK TO BRAZIL Manga Rosa grow! And Paraguay too!



This sounds great!

I’m following this one.
I’ll park on the couch and start loading the party bong… :+1: :sunglasses:



Cannabis Brazil Regarding the arrival of marijuana in Brazil, there is no consensus among the historians. Some argue that it was introduced into Brazil by slaves. It is even argued that it was in 1549, a period concomitant to the permit granted by D. João III that authorized the importation of slaves to work on the sugar plantations, giving each master the right to have up to 1200 slaves. There is no evidence that, in the beginning, the slave brought marijuana with the intention of forgetting the armatures of slavery and nostalgia for the land of the ancestors. (Bucher, 1992; Brandão, 2002; MacRae & Simões, 2000; Moreno, 1958). Graeff (1989), when talking about the introduction of marijuana in Brazil, emphasizes that it started with African slaves, whose name was tobacco from Angola, and that there was soon an acceptance of its use. Costa and Gontiès (1997) also emphasize studies by Pio Correia (1931) who claim that the seeds of tobacco from Angola arrived in Brazilian territory in the 15th century, coming in cloth dolls wrapped in the ends of their loincloths by African slaves. These authors also point out that marijuana was widely used mainly in the North and Northeast of Brazil, considering that it was developed in sugarcane plantations. There is another hypothesis about the origin of marijuana that advocates the existence of indigenous populations in the Amazon, and that they already used it in medicinal form, in the preparation of teas and powders by shamans, as well as in religious ceremonies in order to maintain contact with the deities (Monteiro, 1965).


Manga Rosa:
Manga Rosa is a relatively mysterious strain and what we know of its origins is just guesswork. It is believed that the first cannabis seeds to arrive in Brazil were brought by slaves from West Africa at the time of Portuguese colonization, between the years 1500-1700.

According to official document of the Brazilian Government: "The plant would have been introduced in our country, from 1549 onwards, by black slaves, as Pedro Corrêa alludes to, and the seeds of hemp were brought in rag dolls, tied to the ends of the loincloths” (Ministry of Foreign Affairs, 1959).

As the climate in Brazil is very favorable for the cultivation of various plants and also very similar to that of Africa, where the seeds came from, cannabis brought by slaves did very well in national territory and different regions developed different strains over the years centuries.

In the book “History of Marijuana in Brazil”, historian Jean Marcel Carvalho França states that it is not possible to specify who brought cannabis to the country, but that it was certainly the Africans who made it popular. “The ‘authorship’ of the introduction of Cannabis and cannabis in Portuguese America is, therefore, uncertain: Africans, brought here as slaves in the mid-16th century, knew the plant and appreciated its intoxicating effects; but many Portuguese sailors, particularly those frequenting Indian careers, were also adept at cannabis and were familiar with the cannabis culture. This, however, matters little, as it was undoubtedly the Africans and their descendants who consolidated the habit of cannabis in local society”.
It is even with the slavery intention of repressing the habit of Africans to consume “diamba”, “liamba”, “pito de pango” or “fumo-de-angola” that the City Council of Rio de Janeiro establishes the first prohibitionist law of the Brazil, in 1830. “It is prohibited to sell and use the pango pito, as well as its conservation in public houses; the offenders will be people who use it, in eight days in jail“, says the text.

There have been attempts to insert hemp for industrial purposes into the Portuguese portion of the America, some of which had government support, such as Real Cânhamo Linen Factory in São Leopoldo, Rio Grande do Sul, but there was no traditional establishment of culture in Brazil (FRANÇA, 2015). However, the Narcotics Inspection Law was approved in 1938 (decree-law No. 891) and the prohibition ends attempts to introduce and research the cannabis culture, as well as its products and their uses. Still on the racist facts leading to the criminalization of marijuana, at the end of the 19th century, the Lombrosian psychiatric current rose, influential for spreading ideas pseudoscientific organizations that held that certain races carried natural characteristics determinants of criminal behavior. Associating criminal conduct to the customs and culture of black people, as well as the habit of smoking marijuana. (BARROS; PERES, 2011).
Thus, according to Lombrosian psychiatry, marijuana use was considered a driver of criminal practices and its consumers, seen as criminals beforehand. With the Abolition of Slavery, this thought would help control and repress the freedom of former enslaved blacks and their descendants. Slavery was abolished in 1888, the Republic proclaimed in 1889 and its Constitution entered into force in 1891. A year before its Greater Law was promulgated, the Republic tried to establish two instruments to control blacks in 1890: the Penal Code and the “Section of Toxic Narcotics and Mystification” (BARROS; PERES, 2011), in order to combat cults of African origin and the use of cannabis, which exposes the racist stigmatization that led to the national adoption of prohibitive legislation.

From then onwards, several Brazilian cities copied the behavior and an attack began against “diambist” slaves, which was justified by the fact that the herb made them more “lazy”, “smiling” and “stubborn”.

Records show that Manga Rosa is one of the marijuana genetics cultivated illegally in the Lower and Middle São Francisco, the so-called Polygon of Marijuana.
According to Fraga (2006), the so-called Polygon of Marijuana covers a vast region, located at the junction of four states of the federation: Bahia, Pernambuco, Alagoas and Sergipe, in the middle and sub-middle São Francisco. It corresponds to an ample area of ​​approximately 40,000 m², half of which is located in Pernambuco. The number of cities varies, depending on the body responsible for counting, but the figure is between 20 and 30 municipalities. Cities such as Orocó, Cabrobó, Belém do São Francisco, Salgueiro and Floresta stand out as places with significant marijuana growing areas. Salgueiro emphasizes both for its importance as a municipality where there are expressive plantations, and for its strategic location, crossed by four important highways that connect it to other states in the Northeast, a fundamental condition for the flow of local production (FRAGA, 2006). Recent discoveries of cannabis plantations in Chapada do Araripe led to Federal Police to also consider Ceará as belonging to the region due to its proximity. Originally, however, cities in Ceará were not accounted for in the Polygon’s geometry (FRAGA, 2006).

The Polygon has a tradition in plant cultivation and in hedonic use by the population, according to Fraga, the presence of cannabis has been registered in the region for a long time. Notes indicate that there was a full adaptation of the plant to local climatic conditions, and the existence of collective/or ritualistic use of marijuana. Pierson (1972) already reported in his notes that on the banks of the São Francisco River in 1950 it was already possible to observe cannabis plantations in the region. In 2006, it was estimated that approximately 40,000 peasants were directly or indirectly involved in the cultivation of marijuana. Due to a job full of uncertainties, where there is a considerable risk of losing production due to the weather or Difficulty in flowing out, farmers replace traditional agriculture with an illegal crop whose inputs are abundantly offered and the final product has a definitely higher market value. However, the farmer and their families face the inherent risks of trafficking. In most cases, they plan to stay in this activity only for a short time. They are both victims and accomplices (FRAGA, 2006).

Taking into account the edaphoclimatic capabilities and the long history of cultivation of the plant, the vast plantations and effective profits, even so cannabis does not have high levels of quality, this because illegality limits research, the gardens are constantly at risk and the more the sooner the production can be offloaded, the better. Quality, within this reality, is not the priority. In the illegal market, there is no control or inspection of production. Users do not have guarantees, and crops face barriers to improving production. Given that family farmers in São Francisco were deprived of efficient public policies for local development, it is up to the government to repair the damage and omissions to these communities. Legalization is an opportunity to establish a new legal culture and must be at the service of development, being used to favor those communities that found their livelihood and are at its mercy.

According to Pierson, Polígono – which by 2015 would still be responsible for the sale of 40% of the illegal marijuana market in Brazil – became the main marijuana supplier in Brazil in the 1990s, “including the legendary strains of sativa ‘Manga Rosa’, ‘Cabeça-de-Nego’ and ‘Cabrobró’”.

As history is shrouded in prohibition and erasure, it is not possible to determine the origin of these genetics. Many say it is a 100% sativa strain that developed wildly on Brazilian soil since it was brought by African slaves. Other users have already argued that the original one would be Cabeça-de-Nego, while Manga Rosa would be a cross with Colombian Gold, a classic wild sativa, from the Colombian region of Santa Marta.

The name comes from a variety of mango that is widely cultivated in northeastern Brazil: The Manga Rosa, of course. Manga Rosa is known for being one of the sweetest and tastiest fruits in the entire northeast.

To have a dimension of the size of the fame and importance of this Brazilian species, Manga Rosa is one of the strains that gave rise to the famous White Widow.

The terpene profile of Manga Rosa is predominantly composed of Terpinolene and Myrcene. The first terpene has forest aromas, fresh and earthy, with notes of pine, wood and flowers. Terpinolene is also found in Scots Pine, Nutmeg, Marjoram, Oregano, Rosemary and Ginger. Mirceno is the most common terpene found in cannabis and provides pleasant aromas mixing earthy and musky. Myrcene is also found in mango, hops, thyme, basil and lemongrass.

Manga Rosa Effects

Manga Rosa is a strain that came from Africa, developed in the tropical climate of Brazil and today is considered a Brazilian landrace, that is, a strain that originated other strains.

So your genetics are 100% Sativa. Although the separation between Sativa / Indica is not 100% reliable when it comes to the recreational or medicinal effects of a strain, in the case of Manga Rosa its genetic purity makes its effects the perfect example of what is expected from a Sativa. Its effect is energizing, psychedelic and will hardly make you “bumpy”.

Like many Sativas, genetics has a high concentration of THC which makes its wave very cerebral, creative and stimulating, but not very bodily. Manga Rosa has a unique aroma and flavor: it is an extremely fruity Sativa, with a sweet mango smell and flavor that keep very well after combustion.


In the medical field, Sativa-dominant strains tend to be recommended for patients who need the relief brought by Cannabis but need to stay productive and awake during the day. Like most strains, their uses are diverse and their effectiveness varies greatly from person to person. Manga Rosa is highly recommended to deal with stress, lack of energy and chronic pain. Its energetic and cheerful wave is perfect for anyone who needs an energy boost while maintaining focus and mental clarity.

Users suffering from chronic pain can also find great relief with the strain. As with all THC-rich strains, Manga Rosa is not recommended for patients dealing with depression, anxiety or other psychological disorders.

High concentrations of THC can worsen anxiety symptoms and cause episodes of paranoia. Always moderate your marijuana dose well when using it medicinally: Know your limits and stay within them for positive experiences with cannabis.

How to grow Mango Rosa The plant is tall, reaching more than 2 meters with ease when grown outdoors. Its leaves are long and thin, just like any other Sativa.

The plant tends to produce long, narrow flowers, usually covered with pink or reddish pistils. It doesn’t grow many branches beyond the main stem, so expect a nice fat top bud at harvest time.

Flowering Time*: 18-26 weeks. When planted outdoors, flowering time will depend on the time of year. It usually blooms in winter where the nights are longer.
*: According to @upstate, varieties with 10 to 14 weeks of flowering were hybridized, around the 70s.
I agree, because there is a lot of repression here, especially at that time, preventing very elaborate plant selections.

Yield: Medium-High.

Difficulty to grow: Very low.

Preferred climate: Tropical climates, ie hot and humid. It is a strain that has always developed freely and without human assistance in the north and northeast of Brazil.

The strain should do well anywhere in Brazil Fertilization: As already mentioned, the strain has always developed freely without much human intervention. Normal doses of fertilizer with a well-prepared soil should suffice for optimal grass yields.

Tips: For centuries the strain has developed freely and without human intervention in outdoor crops in the north and northeast of Brazil. When planted outdoors, little care is needed other than keeping it irrigated and with nutrients in the right dosage for the strain to thrive and achieve excellent yields.

The strain is also not discarded for indoor cultivation. As it does not branch out very laterally, in crops with little space it can be used very well through pruning and tying.

In terms of temperature, seeds wake up better in a climate of 22° on average.

The specific Manga Rosa can withstand drought and withstand high temperatures. It doesn’t die even in a heat of around 35°. But the roots like fresh water.

Source: Manga Rosa: Conheça as strains - Blog Mapa da Maconha
Manga Rosa: a história da maconha de genética brasileira - Growroom


Maconha: uma perspectiva histórica, farmacológica e antropológica, 2003.


Interesting, definitely looks worth keeping an eye on to see how these grow. I’ll be back soon with some popcorn. :wink:


Freaker seed runs in Brazil? sounds awesome.


Paraguay #4

Cannabis cultivation is believed to have started in Paraguay in the Department from Amambay, which became an important marijuana producer, taking advantage of its condition as a dry border, poor police control, corruption of the authorities, etc. Currently, the cultivation has spread to other departments of the Republic of Paraguay (SENAD, 2001).

The basis of Paraguay’s economy, since the time of the Jesuits, has been the production of grass. mate Ilex paraguariensis, being the country one of the great exporters until the mid-1960s. The Department of Amambay was, then, one of the biggest producers, as it is considered the center of origin of this plant. The yerba mate traders were the founders of the capital city of that department, who traveled in ox-cart trains to the port city of Concepción, so that this merchandise could travel by boat. In this region on the border of Paraguay with Brazil, the modernization of agriculture led to the disappearance of large extensions of forests with millenary trees, which are currently almost impossible to observe due to deforestation. The modernization also erased thousands of hectares of native yerba mate, considered “green gold” in the Department of Amambay at that time, from the scenery of the Cordillera de Amambay. The “green gold” was replaced by soy, pastures and cattle, which implied an increase in the concentration of land and means of production. In this context, cannabis emerged as a alternative and a temptation for poor family farmers excluded from agricultural modernization processes. This new crop brought solutions to some and many problems for others, both in rural and urban areas.

Amambay is the thirteenth department (state) of the Republic of Paraguay and borders the state of Mato Grosso do Sul, Brazil. The department is geographically located in the extreme north of the Eastern Region of Paraguay, between the parallels 55°28‟ and 57°00‟ of west longitude and the meridians 22°05‟ and 23°05‟ of south latitude. Its limits are: to the north, Brazil, separated by the Apá river and the Amambay Mountains; to the south, the Department of Canindeyú; to the east, Brazil, separated by the Cordillera do Amambay; and, to the west, the departments of Concepción and San Pedro. It has a territorial extension of approximately 12,933 km2 and is divided into three municipalities: Pedro Juan Caballero, capital of the department, Bella Vista Norte and Capitán Bado.

But how did this plant arrive in Paraguay? And at what historical moment? Melamed (2009) offers some indications about the entry and expansion of cultivation in Paraguay, for its production, not for consumption as a drug: We can read that Ley 20, title 18 of book IV de la Recopilación de Leyes de Indias, corroborates that the Emperor Don Carlos and the Prince Governor in Ponferrada, on the 13th of June 1545, are in charge of the virreyes and governors who will seed and benefit in the Indias Lino and Hemp, and seek that the Indians become apply to this farm, and understand in hilar and tejer lino‟. Also index: „El 12 of number of 1777, by Royal Orden, and of the document established in the Recopilación de Indias, let the Indians and other Pueblos de eso Domains be applied to the seed, cultivation, benefit of hemp and linen, so that these fruits as primary materials can be brought to Spain free of all extraction and entry rights in estos Reynos to promote las Fábricas de Lienzos.

According to the farmers who produce cannabis, they often use the term “partner” or “partner” to refer to the person with whom they maintain relationships and commitments to produce the plant. These people, in turn, maintain relationships and commitments with the “bosses”, owners of production. The first hypothesis, according to an oral report by a trafficking “partner” who also speaks in Portuguese, is that: “Colombians were the introducers of cannabis in the Department of Amambay, specifically in the municipality of Pedro Juan Caballero in the early 1960s ”. At first, the Colombians tried to grow crops in Bolivia, but the results they obtained were very low, as the seedlings had low germination. Bearing these situations in mind, traffickers they drove to the Serra do Departamento de Amambay, already in Paraguayan territory, to test those cannabis seeds, and achieved results that were very encouraging to their interests. According to the report of the same key informant: “In this region, a very high germination and emergence of seeds and a very encouraging plant growth has been achieved”. They soon concluded that the plant had established itself in that region and started, from that moment, on the commercial exploitation of cannabis. A second hypothesis, reported by another informant, admits that the cannabis also arrived in the early 1960s, but coinciding with the arrival of Japanese migration in this part of Paraguay. Japanese immigrants arrived in 1956, a contingent of 137 Japanese families, and were settled in the Department of Amambay, contracted to grow coffee at Estancia Johnson, de la Compañia Americana de Fomento Economico (CAFE). Three years after the arrival of Japanese migration, CAFE broke and newcomers had to migrate to another income-generating activity.

With the collapse of the Cafe, most of these lands were prepared to receive cultivation, and these were used to start production in the vicinity of the city of Pedro Juan. A third hypothesis, also indicated by an informant, argues that “the marihuana came to this region in 1965, when nadie knew it, at least as a drug”, since the prohibition practically did not exist. The arrival of the seed actually happened by chance, when an airplane made a forced landing 5 km from the urban area of ​​Pedro Juan Caballero, in the place known today as Isla Madama. Of the occupants of this plane, no one knew what happened. The fact is that the plane had Uruguayan registration and would have departed on the Brazilian side, was en route through Paraguayan territory and was headed for somewhere in Uruguay. As the days went by, some people arrived at the device and, out of curiosity, they noticed that inside it there were some bags loaded with seeds unknown to everyone who had been there. As no one knew those seeds, they turned to a resident of the city of Pedro Juan Caballero, known as “Gordo Barboza”, in order to request his collaboration to identify the seed. Being Brazilian, it was thought that he could recognize that rare seed. “Gordo Barboza” replied that he did not know those seeds and offered to take them to the city of Dourados, in the state of Mato Grosso do Sul, where he had an acquaintance who worked in a laboratory, known as “Lamparita”. Indeed, “Lamparita” recognized the seeds as belonging to cannabis. Thus, “Gordo Barboza”, in possession of this information about the uses of the plant, encouraged the first commercial plantations of this plant in the Department of Amambay, in the community of Fortuna. “Gordo Barboza”, a native of Naviraí, Mato Grosso do Sul, Brazil, would thus have inaugurated the first known cannabis trafficking route to Brazil, the Pedro Juan Caballero, Paraguay, and Naviraí, Mato Grosso do Sul route. In the early days of drug trafficking, transporting the drug was relatively easy, because the police, when carrying out some type of control, did not know it and, when asking what it was about, had the answer that it was “Japanese alfalfa”.
This first border cannabis trafficker was murdered in Pedro Juan Caballero, in the 1990s, on his doorstep, presumably on the orders of a known drug trafficker. But, regardless of what is reality or social imagination about the introduction and expansion of cannabis cultivation, the fact is that the plant is part of the daily life of the inhabitants of the Department of Amambay, mainly due to two factors: on the one hand, the impetus given by traffickers encouraging cultivation and, on the other hand, the region’s climatic advantages that facilitate good productivity. Such conditions contribute to involve many farming families in the production and circulation networks of this drug. It is worth noting that this production is rarely carried out by individual producers, since almost all producers are interconnected to drug trafficking groups, through a “partner” who performs the interconnections. Criminal organizations that came, above all, from Brazil, settled in this Paraguayan region and created/recreated trafficking networks, with the involvement of traffickers, authorities, cannabis producers and various social agents who perceive in trafficking possibilities for economic gains and power, as well as staying at the top of the hierarchy of organized crime. In the 1960s, illicit border activity was coffee smuggling, but later cannabis trafficking became the most profitable illegal activity. According to Araujo (2012), João Morel, a recognized trafficker in the region, hired family farmers to grow marijuana, whether on their own land, leased or abandoned. The plantations attracted a powerful drug trafficker who operated in the favelas of Rio de Janeiro, who started to buy with a view to supplying the Comando Vermelho (CV) retail trade in Rio de Janeiro. With this “partnership” of the drug trafficking network set up, marijuana plantations in Paraguay expanded from Amanbay to other departments: Canindeyú, San Pedro and Alto Paraná.
Such situations contributed to constituting what can be called the marijuana boom in the region and the beginning of a new “Paraguay War” (ARAUJO, 2012, p. 110). In the early 1990s, the leader of the Rio favela , on one of his crossings across that border in Capitán Bado, established a friendship and partnership with a family that became well-known for their role in drug trafficking, which in the border area received the nickname “Clan”. When commercial cannabis plantations began, it was relatively easy to keep the cultivation underground. It was enough to invest in opening of a clearing in the middle of the great forests of Amambay, which then existed covering most of the territory. The preparation of the soil of the cultivated fields consisted of let the area dry and then burn it. After the first rain, sowing was carried out. From the 70’s onwards, the great felling of forest in the country began, to allow the expansion of the agricultural frontier. Currently, there is great concern in the It makes sense to avoid that crops imply the disappearance of forests almost completely. Therefore, the current marijuana cultivations are situated in places with topography of difficult to access and distant from the places of residence of young farmers. Currently, the young farmers mobilize on motorcycles, usually without documentation or with cold documentation. They are employed, without any employment relationship, to develop the cannabis culture in national parks, legal reserves of large landowners, indigenous communities and some other state properties, which until now have Forest.

it is observed a power vacuum, which is filled by the organized mafia, which stimulates activity illicit, in a subordinate production system. In other words, young farmers they work in a land that is neither theirs nor their family; produce, but cannot fix the price of their product, they have no way of looking for another buyer, because the mafia does not admits speculation, all its production must be handed over to the “partner” of the mafia operating in the place. Fraga and Iulianelli (2003, p. 125), in their research on cannabis in Northeastern Brazil. Brazil, point out that, “with the vacuum of official credits, drug trafficking started to proposal for small farmers to cultivate the herb”. Finally, as unscrupulous rulers began to plunder the country, poverty began a spiral escalation, reaching half the population. Hence, cannabis turned into a viable alternative for farmers, very advantageous in relation to traditional crops.

Cannabis sativa produced in the lands of Amambay has gained fame in the world market for its quality, evaluated by its higher content of Tetrahydrocannabinol (THC), an active chemical substance that provides the toxic effect. Cannabis obtained elsewhere in the world is less concentrated in THC, which is explained in some way by the climate and soil conditions that characterize the Department of Amambay. The municipality of Capitán Bado has become known around the world for the production of cannabis. In Amambay, one hectare of marijuana produces around a ton and a half ready-to-use drug, a volume that allows for a gain of approximately 30 million guaraníes, equivalent, in reais, to 15 thousand at today’s exchange rate. With the climate and soil satisfactory, Cannabis sativa is capable of producing up to three crops per year, while the Gossipium sp cotton has only one annual production. You can easily get to the conclusion that this culture is much more profitable than the lawful culture. living in regions remote areas, on small plots of land, with few roads for the flow of any product, peasants, especially young people, see marijuana as an irresistible temptation, in order to get an increase in their income (ARAUJO, 2012). On the quality of cannabis produced in Paraguay, which, if legalized, would be the main export product of the country, Melamed (2009, p. 51) points out: The quality of Paraguayan Cannabis is beyond all discussion; prueba de ellos es it demands that it be on the black market for recreational use. For quoting a pair for examples: in the capital city, consumers refer to Paraguay as the northern empire and since the late 1980s, in Ibiza, Spain, one of the recreation center of the „jet set‟ europeo, la marihuana paraguaya ha vendió displacing the famous „Colombian Dorada‟. But that they weigh a few, this is un good quality control and market study for a natural resource It could be one of our main export products.

The Word Group Report (UN, 2008), an agency linked to the United Nations against Drugs and Delito (UNODC), disclosed that Paraguay is the largest cannabis producer in South America and the second largest in America. On the other hand, the same report emphasizes that the country is an important provider of hash in the world, ranking among the ten largest providers. In that country, approximately 5,900 tons of cannabis were collected, just over half of the total production in South America, estimated at 10,000 tons. Cannabis sativa on this frontier presents two phenomena: acclimatization and naturalization. Relative to the first, being an exotic plant from this region, it develops with the greatest naturalness, hence its ability to produce throughout the year. This means that the plant’s physiology has adapted to that environment. Relative to the second, it multiplies naturally and does not require special treatment to produce seed at all times. of the year.

This naturalization is also explained by the fact that, where there was a plantation of cannabis, in successive years, the seeds continued to germinate. These plants originated from seeds from previous years are known as “guachas” plants. the laymen in the matter they might think about letting it grow and then harvesting. However, they don’t are of no interest to cannabis growers because they are quite irregular in their germination and very heterogeneous in their growth. Above all, by the stand that they represent per unit of surface, would not pay off economically work with the “guacha” plants. In 2010, a curious fact happened on the property of the Universidad Nacional de Asunción (UNA), which is located 20 km from the city of Pedro Juan Caballero, in the district of Raúl Ocampos Rojas, better known as the community of “Chiriguelo”. There the Experimental Field of the Facultad de Ciencias Agrárias, subsidiary of Pedro Juan operates Caballero, with an extension of 102 hectares, of which only 30 hectares are used normally. The remaining 72 hectares constitute one of the last reserves of native forest. of Amambay. In a routine check of technicians and employees, a cannabis plantation of approximately 4 hectares, at its point of harvest. The fact was communicated to UNA authorities, and they gave the order to officials to establish contact with cultivators with the following message: “Considering that cultivation finds at your harvest point, collect everything as soon as possible and abandon the place and never cultivate again here, which will be denounced before the authorities of repression." This was done and, until today, they have not returned to invade the property for this type of work in hiding.



Great start! I learned a lot reading all that. If i google those two strains i get next to no information. When my Brazilian friend Googled Manga Rosa for me one day on his phone, a bunch of great info came up. Keep it coming! Heres a short video. Not sure if this is pure or hybrid but I see the pole ( branchless)phenotype.

. https://youtu.be/bdRWPOQALcE


@Gpaw @Cormoran Thanks for the encouragement, just getting started. Bring popcorn and lots of weed, this will take time.

@PetalPowerseed Yes, in Brazil.
@Upstate gave a hand for these seeds…
I feel honored to do this here, and I appreciate your confidence…
I will do everything possible and impossible to preserve these varieties…

@Upstate I’m gonna explain…

10 seeds of the Paraguay variety arrived. Of these, one did not sink, and
5 growing.

8 seeds of Manga Rosa arrived,
6 growing.

That’s what I got, the other plants in the photo are your Oaxacan, they all blew up.

I’ll take more pictures to follow along.

Glad you liked it, I was researching a lot, I learned new things too.
These are interviews with the growers themselves, in the case of Paraguay. They explain all the details.

They talk about improved and traditional plants.

e They make a differentiated press, with orange juice and honey.

None of this is my authorship, I just cut out parts of interest, and used the translator…
All credit to the authors.

The Paraguayans expelled a goo, I think there’s only one more…


I come up with a long list of places claiming that they have real Manga Rosa they can sell me, that’s about it. :stuck_out_tongue: Wonder if any of them actually do, or if Google is just in on the game… they’ve certainly got me pegged, that’s for sure.

Ouch. :frowning: Hopefully a male and female survived, the goo is probably not a good sign for the rest.


Looks like another Manga Rosa will make it and maybe one or two more Paraguay. Slimey goo? Maybe time to swap out the paper towels and rub the seed shells off. Its worked for me before…sometimes. Looking good!

Probably not real Manga Rosa. This is one of the rarest landraces on earth. I was pleasantly surprised I found it. Exotic Alchemy was not selling them at the time, but upon hearing of my quest for Brazilian genetics to grow for my Brazilian friends, he dug a few out for me as a freebie. Good guy.


@Cormoran and @Upstate

After this bibliographical review, I am convinced that Manga Rosa is a regional variety, and its qualities were expressed in a period of little or no repression. During this period, cultivators were free to plant, select, dry and mainly cure. Maybe that’s why it became famous. With the prohibition and police actions, it became difficult to select, harvests are done in advance, and curing and drying are the same thing. Difficult to achieve high levels of quality. Finally, hybridization, fast and resinous plants, a temptation for growers in general…

What do you think?


I think you are right. Seems like its been grown in Brazil for hundreds of years. Related to African Red strains, brought during the slave trade.
After prohibition, people growing the longest flowering plants had to avoid the cops for up to 6-9 months, and hybrids yield better, faster and more often.


Good luck and best of vibes @Gugumelo!


Best of luck I’ll tag a long for the show



@corey and @Papalag

Good to have you here. Thanks



Day 14 (since immersion)

At first, an overview of all sprouts.

All of them, the Manga Rosa and Paraguay, are similar, both in form and in growth.
There were variations in germination, two plants took 10 days.

Does the Paraguay 1 plant present deformations in one of the leaves, could it be excess water, or something in the root?

There are 2 Manga Rosa left.
@Upstate, I switched roles again, second time.

Manga Rosa: 6 plants

Paraguay #4:

5 plants. The other 5 won’t germinate, they’ve rotted.


Awesome @Gugumelo!!! Amazing enterprise!! Wish you the best!! Also thanks to @Upstate and @Guitarzan!! Amazing OGers!! :pray: :clap: :clap: :clap: :hugs: