Fills 1st. IndoorGrow or the Zen of flying&growing weed :-)

Was missing your updates :upside_down_face:, glad to see everything’s OK on your side. Don’t trust what the breeder says about flowering days, it is supposed to be in optimal conditions and normally state fewer to increase sales.

I start to flush when I begin to see the milky trichomes and previously decrease the nutrients income. I had that problem you mention, if you want some info check my thread “Flushing to soon”, you will see there’s nothing to worry about.

Keep in mind that even after chopping the trichomes still maturing and degrading, so be ready when some amber trichomes appear if you don’t want a heavy couchlock effect. Congrats on your great incoming harvest … homer-simpson

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Again, beloved George has said all it has to be said :slight_smile: I love those colas, great Job my friend!!! :green_heart:

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Great to hear from you, dear George ! Many thanks for your kind words. My plants are in top condition, it seems… I m sooo exited, like a kid on xmas eve…! But dont want to spoil it in the last few weeks…

I m certainly will go and look at your “Flushing too soon” thread…!
Will be back soon to tell you what I will do next…
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Great to hear from you, dear George ! Many thanks for your kind words. My plants are in top condition, it seems… I m sooo exited, like a kid on xmas eve…! But dont want to spoil it in the last few weeks…
I certainly will go and read this thread of yours…

Like I stated elsewere… All this would have not been possible without you and the other guys I tagged in my last posting :slight_smile:

You are all so generous and helpful ! I d like to be around here some more but my days only have 24 hours…

So thank you so much, all you breeders and smokers out there !

Wish you all the best !

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Awesome stuff, filly!!! Are your fingers getting itchy?! This will test your patience, for sure. If you’re not impulsive, it will be a breeze…when I hit 8 weeks I cant put the scissors down…foaming at the mouth like a rabid dog…lol

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There’s alot of debate about flushing. Some people say it’s very important, some people say it makes no difference. I’ve harvested plants that I didn’t have time to flush and didn’t notice much of a difference vs plants I’ve flushed for 2 weeks. For me as long as I get a few waterings with no nutrients then I’m happy.

If you start seeing some cloudy trichomes then it’s probably a good time to start with straight water. Hairs are a good indicator too, if they’re turning orange and you’re not seeing new white hairs then they are finishing up their cycle.

To see the trichomes better see if you can get a cheap pocket microscope like this:

s-l300

They usually only cost a few dollars and really help to see the details. Either way don’t sweat it too much, the window of time where they are at the right ripeness is usually a couple weeks, so if you take them down during that they’ll be great.

Plants look very good, great work you’re a natural!

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I too am waiting impatiently.

IMO trying to figure out flushing time here is counterproductive. I wouldn’t try to guess 2 weeks out from finish time. You will likely be wrong.

Let the plants tell you when they are done and not the other way around.

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:slightly_smiling_face: too much honour, Beacher… It might be because I do outdoor growing. And this forum did the rest. My plants would not look like they do without you and the other guys I tagged before…

BTW - I have one of these pocket microscopes. Thanks for the suggestion :slight_smile:

I like the suggestion with the orange hairs. Much easier to spot then milky trichomes :nerd_face:

@Tappy How do you know, brother ? My fingers are itchy as hell - I check every once in a while if temp and humidity are ok. They are :slight_smile:

After reading Georges thread “flushing too soon” I decided not to flush my plants for an extended period.
I will flush them with some “Flawless Finish” and feed them only pHed water for 3 to 4 days. Whenever they re ready…

So I will do as with my outdoor crop - watching them very closely every day. And cutting them on short notice.

I agree with @Foreigner. I will let the plants tell me when they re ready - not the other way around !

There are lots of opinions but no hard facts about an extended flushing/only water period. I doubt that the chemicals can be smelled while smoking. I can tell you in a month or so… :wink:

To me the problem lies elsewhere. Meat and groceries produced with growth hormones and non-biological fertilizers are containing these poisons. Nobody doubt this, I presume.

So for me the solution is easy. My next grow I will go totally organic !

There are heavy metals and other dangerous materials in those fertilizers.
On some bottles they write that the product should not go unfiltered into the water circuit cause it s toxic to plants and fish !

The runoff goes into the toilet I guess ? Should not…

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The last time I watered my plants I was checking the runoff of one of the plants.

pH 6.22 EC > 3,999 ppm > 2000

My Hanna instrument can only measure upto 3.99 or 2000 ppm. After this value is blinking…
With another instrument (ADWA) I measured EC ms 3.93 !!

What for Buddhas sake does this mean…? ? ? ? ?

As always - thanks for sharing your time and wisdom

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It means they’re not taking up all the nutrients that you’re giving them and some of the salts are remaining in the soil. The problem is you have no way of knowing which nutrients, like they could be using all the potassium and leaving nitrogen and phosphorus behind for example.

If they look healthy with the amount you’re giving them (which they do) the a good flush every couple weeks should wash the excess salts out of the soil. You could try feeding lighter too but you might run into deficiencies.

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this goes for cocos as well, I think… Too bad there is no way of knowing witch nutrients are building up,… I already gave them less nutes then indicated on the bottle.

Even though tomorrow starts the 8th week of flowering I will flush them one by one. Curious about the runoff after that…

As always before harvest I m quite exited and need lots of LITFA :wink:

I start to take off leafs on top so the smaller buds will be getting a bit more light. Just have to take care that I m not carried away and take off too many…

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When something works well, there’s no reason for a change. I recommend you reading thoroughly the organic grow section. I am really discouraged having to deal with bat guano, fish or blood. I sincerely admire those growers because they have to be sorciers, you never know what’s in your soil, I mean how many N-P-K, pH, ppm, if it is hot or not and you have to prepare that soil many weeks before.

If you have a deficiency or excess it is no question of adding 1 ml/liter of this or that, you have to add organic components or teas that may supply that mystery ingredient missing, that means having a deep knowledge and years of experience.

You need microorganisms and bacterias to provide nutrients to the plant, that is a slow process and worse with cold weather. Organics attracts more insects and pests, which is a nightmare in indoor grows.

I use Advanced Nutrients pH Perfect, as they state " we do not use paclobutrazol, daminozide, or any other banned plant growth regulators in our products.", and you can throw away your pH pen because they have a component that chelates the nutrients and make them available to the plant independently of the pH range.

There are also organic fertilizers in bottle also in other brands if you want to feel ecological, just buy more Umwelt concerned products, no need to go organic when you have a good experience and harvest with bottled ones, just change them.

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taking off leafs isnt enough to get more light to the buds further down in constant shadow.

Is it possible to cut the top cola and a few others on top, if they are done ?
And leave the rest of the plant in the pot so the buds farther down have direct light and time to finish ?
This would free up some space and more light could reach the smaller buds further down.

Or do I have to cut down the rest of the plant within a certain time limit for reasons unknown to me ?

Thanks for sharing your time, wisdom and experience :slight_smile:

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I"ve seen people doing what you intend, never tried myself but would be great if you practice it and later on do a report of it’s results … :sunglasses:

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…hmmmmm… if you ve seen people doing what I intend then you must have seen the result.

So why should I put one or two of my precious plants on the line just to satisfy your curiosity ? :face_with_raised_eyebrow:

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Here in Spain, we have a saying: “To make an omelette (tortilla) you must first break the eggs :hatching_chick:”, I have tons of information but in unrelated broken pieces. I cannot remember who said that and the final results, you are in an optimal position to experience that, let’s say for scientific purposes and general interest.

I also remember someone telling me to choose buds from the medium branches of the plant to check trichomes, as the ones in the top are more done and the ones in low branches not, so that’s another reason to try this experiment. I am almost two months away from chopping, you can also wait for me trying that, I am not reluctant to enhance harvest with new techniques … frech|nullxnull

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a good saying, George.

Usually, you re not THAT scientifc - I relate to your methods of mixing nutes with this and that till the ppm is right :wink:

I f my memory serves me well (it s seldom the case) I ve been reading about cutting part of the plant in Ed Rosenthal s Marijuana Growers Handbook.
Will prepare some food (no broken eggs) and look if I can find the passage in the book.
Will hit you back soon :sunglasses:

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lol… memory served me right this time :sweat_smile:

It s in Ed Rosenthal s book. So I will do it, when the time has come and report here about it :sunglasses:

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You’re right :upside_down_face:, the scientific data is the total ppm, the way to get them is your own recipe, that way you’re the only responsible of your success or defeat :innocent:. They are just plants, the moment you will be able to understand their needs and interpret their reactions you will be their master, that’s not in the books. Already failed with the chicks, trying now with the plants … :innocent:

EDIT: Nice find … Arriba|nullxnull

Hi @all,

my first indoor grow will come to an end soon… We all like pictures, right ?

Here are some :slight_smile:

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