From SSeeDD to sail.. exploring SSDD, pollen chucks & Bodhi Crosses

I sampled the purple and the tall lav jack. You should always take any review with a grain of salt but especially take my recent ‘reviews’ with a grain of salt. I am doing my best to detail my impression of them but I am not consuming anywhere near enough to give a solid review on them, even ignoring the whole individual body chemistry and cannabinoid thing. I haven’t been consuming much lately and am mostly just trying them out and jotting down my initial thoughts.

Stuff I’ve had mothers around for a long time I’m much more familiar with and confident when I detail how they affect me, ie the ssdd mom, space monkey mom (retired) etc.

Here was my quick thoughts on Purple lav jack and the Tall one :

I am likely going to try the other one tonight and any thoughts I post on it will be from that one experience.

Hope that helps!

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Initially thought this one would have the effects I was expecting from a jack cross (never had jack before though). Started off very alert, feel good and functional but very quickly turned into the same mellow chill buzz the other Lav Jacks had. I like it the effects, just not what I was expecting.

Lav Jack #3


Trichomes : A bit powdery. Definitely not sticky at all.

Smells : peppery rubber leather minty cocoa/coffee notes

Smell intensity : Medium

Potency : Medium

Effects : initially high alert - feel good energy boost that mellows out quickly (10-15min later). After that it’s all calm, mellow and mildly spacey.

Duration 1-1.5 hours

I like the effects. I think most people would find the bud kind of weak and short lived though. Don’t know that I’d run it again because it doesn’t come across as that special to me in any area.

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How is it working for you? I have seen it.

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They definitely are. That’s kind of what I was getting at on my thread the other day.

We used to give all of our dogs some sorta CBD something, I dunno if the vet actually prescribed it or just recommended it and my girl went and bought it or what. Our neighborhood is like a war zone with the fucking fireworks for the week leading up to July 4 and on Christmas Eve (don’t ask me why these dipshits think Christmas Eve is an awesome time to shoot fireworks haha) and New Year’s Eve. They’re legit “fireworks show” fireworks, too, not just the little firecrackers and stuff, no idea where these assholes get them.

Anyway, the CBD doesn’t work at all. Every dog we’ve given it to still starts panting uncontrollably once the fireworks start going off. They pace, go lie down in the shower for a while, then they come back out, then they lie down in the shower, back and forth… And for like two weeks afterwards, any loud noise makes them start looking up at the sky and getting weirded out again haha.

So maybe that CBD is good for inflammation, but it absolutely does not work for fireworks-related trauma haha.

What about turmeric? I’ve read that that’s supposed to be effective for arthritis and also for the hip issues that boxers frequently develop. I’ve actually never given it to any of our boxers, but I have read that it’s supposed to be helpful. Might not be what your sweet dog needs, though, I dunno.

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Yeah for sure. To complicate it further is the fact our animals can’t even talk. For a few weeks she wasn’t really getting much sleep at night and ever since I started giving her CBD nightly she has been fairly normal. I’m not dosing her enough to sedate or intoxicate her so I have to assume it’s having an anti-inflammatory effect but who knows. Doesn’t appear to be hurting and she is still acting completely normal…

I know in my experience CBD alone has never really calmed me down or alleviated anxiety. The 1:1 offerings at the dispensary seemed equally worthless. Open to the possibility cbd containing genetics would be useful, but for store bought products it’s all been ineffective. Not surprised it wouldn’t do much for dogs in a fear-based situation.

Sounds interesting. I’ve heard people recommend it for human related issues so I’ll have to delve into that a bit more, thanks!

She seems mostly OK, obviously I don’t like to see her wobbling but I’m mostly just brainstorming possible long-term approaches if I were to continue with the daily CBD. The route that nube took w/ good medicine sounds interesting to me and may look more into all the aspects of that whole process. The thought of paying that much for hemp is just sickening to me, but then again I refuse to buy any thc-flower as well. Buying hemp products feels even more ridiculous…

I love reading skepticism from other cannabis interested people when it comes to some of the claims about CBD. I think a level headed and realistic approach is the way to go with all this stuff haha.

Edit forgot to comment on this part

My vet just recommended it as a long term strategy for managing the issue in order to avoid prescription anti inflammatory meds if my memory is correct. Neither supplements require a prescription. Take the simplest route and try not to aggravate it kind of approach. She did have her own glucosamine that she sold but of course my dog started refusing to eat that after a week or so.

Have had luck with this for a while now.

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Well then it must be at least somewhat helpful, if not for the inflammation itself then possibly for the aches and pains. I’d assume that that also meant it was helping with the inflammation haha, but I dunno. I always just figure, you know, whatever helps them feel better is good, especially as they start getting older, even if it doesn’t “cure” them.

The only CBD anything I’ve ever tried was an eighth of Harlequin I bought years ago. This was during an extended period where I didn’t have any panic attacks, didn’t buy it for any particular reason other than curiosity. I smoked a joint of it over the course of two “sessions” and didn’t feel the need to ever check out anything CBD-related again.

I do have six seeds of ACDC x Doc’s A5Thai that he included as freebies with one of my orders, which sounds interesting to me. I actually plan on growing them at some point.

Yeah, I think making them yourself would be the way to go. Remember that marinol or whatever it was called, that shit from the 80’s and 90’s that they were giving to AIDS patients and cancer patients where the pharmaceutical companies had, like, isolated the THC molecule or whatever? It was supposed to have all of the benefits of weed without actually being weed haha and it turned out that it was completely ineffective.

I obviously have no way of proving this and I haven’t researched it at all, but I think the CBD stuff might be similar to just psychoactive weed stuff. I mean, we can all agree that THC alone doesn’t make a specific strain “good”; there are other things going on, entourage effect and all that. I think it could be the same thing with isolating CBD, but, again, I really have no idea. I dunno if that’s even what they’re doing with those CBD products haha, not sure how they’re supposed to work.

Coot posted a recipe for turmeric dog treats on this thread: No-Till Gardening: Revisited | Grasscity Forums - The #1 Marijuana Community Online

I can’t remember what page the recipe’s on, but it’s fairly early, don’t think it’s further than like page 20 or so. I’m not even sure the treats are necessary, though; I dunno about your dogs, but I’m pretty sure I could just mix the proper amount of turmeric in with their food and maybe a tiny bit of water and they’d happily eat it.

Have you ever tried the pill pockets? That’s what we use when we have to give our dogs medicine or, uh, pills or whatever. Bowie figured out how to eat the pill pocket while still managing to spit out his medicine haha!, but they’ve always worked with all of our other dogs.

Maybe you could break up the glucosamine, wrap little pieces in the pill pockets and give it to your dog that way.

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Also, and I’ve made this joke before, although maybe not on OG, but that might be a good thing. Like, what if you wondered,”Ohhh, it’d be so cool if my dog could talk…” and then your dog magically developed that ability and was just a super-annoying asshole who wouldn’t ever shut up? And talked constantly about really inane things that you weren’t interested in at all. And then the whole time afterwards you’d just be like,”Jesus Christ, man, shut the fuck up! Would you please just shut the FUCK up?!? I wish I’d never wondered what it would be like if dogs could talk! Gawd… I hate dogs!”

But I understand your point. Nobody likes to see their dogs in pain and it’d be nice to know if the things you did for them were actually working. Still, though… haha.

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Nope never heard of them before, cool idea though. I diy something kind of similar and it seems to work, that glucosamine was a powder though and just ruined anything you mix it into.

Awesome thanks! Will bookmark that

So on another note the tent is fairly crowded and I’m probably going to cull a plant or two at least. I really dislike the secret chief and there’s at least one or two more than look and smell pathetic. I think the lack of airflow is becoming a problem at this point so it seems like an obvious way to open things up a bit.

Here’s what I’m going to cull most likely

Secret Chief -

Rej





Staying

Spirit HP

REJ



DHP


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Ive noticed in the electric cowboys that my favorite OG phenos have the glossy dark green leaves. The HP phenos are more a normal dark green and have a scent thats kind of fresh green spicy incense - I cant for the life of me name the smell… Ill occasionally smell it outsides walking around neighborhoods.

Have you had any throw balls? Im just passing wk3 of flower and 3/5 phenos have had balls or big calyxes spouting nanners. My favorite pheno - the most OG and only one without that HP incense smell, hasnt thankfully. Other favorite which seems to be 50/50 og/hp has had a couple.

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I wouldn’t be surprised if something had stability issues in there but I haven’t really been able to inspect each plant closely because of how packed the tent is. On my last REJ run one of the 2 had some intersex traits and on my first Devil’s HP I saw some as well. After I cull (assuming I go through with it) it may open up a bit of space to actually inspect the undersides of the buds and all that. I think I heard in Nspecta’s potcast interview something to the effect of 10-15% of OG crosses have intersex tendencies, even if the mother plant is stable.

Interesting about the HP phenos, if anyone thinks they see HP or OG traits in any of my plants I’d be curious. Quite a few of the better looking ones appear similar. I think there are 2 Devil’s HPs and one Spirit HP that seem most appealing to me at the moment.

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Yeah most seems to be in the lowers… I didnt clean them up on purpose to test stability since I pull them out to water and inspect regularly.

Ill get a photo of the two I think are most OG leaning - its the dark glossy leaves and leaves that have 3 prominent blades with 2 small sides. I dont have many true 3 blade leaves just a couple on side shoots.

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Just wondering, why are you keeping the 2nd REJ over the first one? The first one has the kushy TK like look in those flowers. I assume you’re around week 5 in these pics?

The second one looks more squat type flowers, like bubba, and maybe slightly leafier too :face_with_monocle:

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I’ll try to get more pictures with accurate labeling to correspond to plant numbers when I get back from dog walk later. The plant you’re talking about just looks so under-developed to me but am open to leaving it if you think it may have potential to turn around. I still do want to clear out a little bit of space though.

The secret chief reminds me of a Jungle Spice (congo pine x88g13hp) that I had, but worse in pretty much every way.

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Ah for sure, don’t let me stop you :sweat_smile: Can’t smell or really get a good idea of the plant from here but just visually, she looks like she might have the OG type look to her. Underdeveloped might make sense there too. TK looks very much the same as the same time frame and she needs 11 weeks to get there. That being said, I was doing some quick google-fu and found these that might be from the SkyWalker OG clone-only at day 51 :thinking:


That flower structure there looks like the 2nd plant you’re wanting to keep…

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So I’ve started and trashed multiple replies to you guys over the last few days, mostly because I was being argumentative rather than constructive, and there’s no benefit to being a prick. I think I finally have a constructive thing to post, so here it is, although now that I’ve read further down in your new replies I see you’ve both mostly addressed what I wanted to say anyway. Oh well. :green_heart:

CBD isn’t a twilight/amnesia drug - its effects are mild by nature and can only take the edge off, not eliminate the emotional reaction altogether. Also, home grown is likely better and more effective - most of that over the counter shit is trash and low quality, even the stuff touted as high end boutiquey brands, unless it’s US-grown and USDA organic. Think storebought tomatoes vs. homegrown, like @syzygy said. No matter how much you pay for the storebought, it’s never as good as homegrown.

I have personally noticed that I have less joint discomfort and clicking/cracking when I put 1tsp of organic turmeric in my smoothie vs. not. I decided to put it in my pup’s homemade food for that very reason. Who knows if it helps? Ours is heavy metal tested, so at least it’s unlikely to hurt much. Also supposed to help itchy skin, which we both have. :confused:

On another subject, do you watch that show All Creatures Great and Small? It’s super feel good British TV about a vet practice in WWII era UK. Anyway, a new season just came out and one of the episodes features a gorgeous white boxer named Cedric! Very cute.

Yes. The CU Boulder mobile weed lab research has found a lot of self-reported benefit from participants when they smoke CBD weed that has some THC, or smoke both CBD weed and THC. People get higher on less weed when there’s some of both present, and stay higher for longer. They’ve also shown significant direct benefit to just CBD for old people and cognitive decline. So there is legit research about the legit benefits of CBD, but it’s not the cure-all silver bullet that the media incorrectly reported it was.

Which leads me to say again that if anything is hyped, don’t believe it. It doesn’t matter what it is - don’t ever believe or fall for hype, cuz it’s guaranteed to never be as good as claimed.

One thing you can do is put the shorter plants on something to raise them up, so they’re not in dead air zones. I’d hate for you to cull plants that might end up being amazing smoke in the end.

:sun_with_face: :rainbow:
:peace_symbol:

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Doesn’t matter to me if you’re blunt or argumentative and disagree with something. I always felt like that was kind of the point of forums anyways. Echo chambers or support groups aren’t as interesting. Feel like minitiger has a similar perspective and that’s something I’ve always respected about him, he can handle being told he’s full of shit haha.

Yeah, I think we’re all on the same page here. I share that perspective and agree with it fully at least. The absurd hype is my hangup with it, and my position isn’t that it’s ineffective for everyone / everything. Locally there’s a ton of snake-oil marketing with cbd for practically everything. I’m sure it’s like that everywhere at this point and not just here.

I should probably get a more substantial fan setup going in there too. I have a HEPA carbon filter on the floor, an exhaust fan in the tent that pulls air out of the room, and that’s it. Having a bit more air movement would probably help a bit. Going to take the dogs again now and hopefully I can remove the diseased looking leaves and figure something out before the light goes off.

I also have a few Triple Sunshines outgrowing the area they are in that I was testing to make sure the plant tag is accurate and so that was partial motivation for this as well.

But ya, I appreciate criticism and opposing viewpoints because often times I am being moronic or absent minded and it can be useful to have it pointed out. The alcohol comment is a good recent example that I really appreciated because I didn’t consider that even.

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Decided to delay the dog outing until 5 so I went in there and defoliated + got some pictures. I am going to BOLD the name of the plants I am going to cull. I am going to italics and bold what I am considering culling.

Spirit HP 1

Spirit HP 2

Secret Chief 2

Redeye Jedi 1

Redeye Jedi 2


Redeye Jedi 3

Devil’s HP 1

Devil’s HP 2

Devil’s HP 3

Devil’s HP 4


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Yeah, I was doing the Golden Milk thing for a while, but I don’t think I was drinking it on a regular-enough basis to reap the health benefits. I should definitely get back into that, though. I lost the recipe haha, but it was actually pretty delicious.

I haven’t heard of it, but maybe I’ll check it out. If there’s a boxer in it, my girl’s gonna love it. She’s probably already watching it in her office while she works and not telling me haha.

It depends on who’s saying I’m full of shit haha.

Re culling plants, you gotta do what you gotta do. I think if you’re looking for OG leaners, I’d keep those nug-y, gap-y plants, even if their flower development is kind of lacking or whatever. I remember two of the Uplifts and both of the Imperial Majesties I grew didn’t have big, impressive flowers or anything, but they were still very good smoke. The IM’s in particular seemed very “OG-ish” to me.

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The situation was simplified for me when I saw the intersex traits!

These 3 are destined to become compost - can see the male flowers in all of them

Redeye Jedi 2

Redeye Jedi 3

Devil’s HP 4

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Oh, shit, I saw it on the last plant, but didn’t notice that on those other two. But yeah, I guess that does make it easier haha. I wonder what the deal is with that. So annoying…

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