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A lot depends on your environment. The reason that plant was so bushy was because I bought a Moffett lamp at auction and put a spot led bulb u
on it at 5000K I wanted to get everything I could so I didn’t worry too much about it. If your light is far enough away it should be okay.
It is definitely a hybrid vigor plant. Most of the seeds you buy today should be the same way vigorous and bushy. Unless you are buying landrace strains.
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Super nice man! Well done!
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I’ll be sure to keep my lights a tad bit further. I wonder if that was my problem, that my first go I had the lights too close from the start. My second plant…now she looks great!
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So after the harvest I did some work on the cabinet and it now has better spread across the top.
At first the 2 clones shared space with a seeded Mom I have. More on that later. 
Since moved. She had a tent of mites on that top cola so I hosed her in the sink with the sprayer and put her out in the cold for a bit. It was harsh but I have to get the mites under control.
I am battling them constantly and can do nothing about it really except war until summer and my wife gets all her plants out of the house. In the meantime I use cold water alternated with diatomaceous earth. I have other things I am doing to address it… put a small lavender and a small rosemary plant in yesterday. Will be making a pest spray with a few leaves of each later.
I’ll get a new pic up some time later today and that should bring everyone up to date on current widows. Well except I have a huge Mom to take clones from at anytime.I’ll take a pic of her too.
Edit: spelling
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May I suggest getting your wife to put MORE PLANTS in the house?!
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So here is a today pic. They are about f25 or so I quit counting days this time.I can look at the pistils and tell if even need a loupe to see yet. Besides with the mites I have a loupe on it every day anyway.
You need to get in a bit closer to see the damage. The leaves look as though there is some kind of deficiency and I think growers that don’t know see this and think something wrong but not pests. Get a loupe and look! If that leaf is twisting and there are fuzzies on the edge of that leaf…
They can be as innocuous as a little bit of frost that appears just a tad out of place on a leaf.
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Ouch. Really though it doesn’t seem to be affecting them too much, so you should be able to finish them out ok. Great training also!
What are those banks of three sockets running down the left and right sides?
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@beacher the lights are just power strips with plugin adapters to turn them into sockets. It was easy to build in a manner that allowed adding in later. At some point in this year I hope to actually acquire a taller cabinet and fit it with a nice f-strip system maybe.
The lights daisy chain from one strip to the next and back to the timer. There are two power circuits since the 2 fans run 24/7 Nothing else there. I do have the one 4x4 junction box with the light cover on it but it goes back to the timer. .
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So the “MotherPlant”, a pregnant clone and the dude we are after for child support. The 3 in the solo cups are witnesses for the court.
As is clear he has been neutered though it is rumored these things may recover and he could be among the ladies frolicking free with their favors at any time.
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Thanks, I’ve never seen those they look handy. Nice looking preggo lady there!
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Do you have issues with those plugs falling off? I’ve heard people using zip ties or super glue on those…
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Nah. It’s about vibration and they are light. If they were warm enough perhaps. Or the bulb heavier maybe. I did notice from my pics that a couple had dropped a fraction of an inch and pushed them back. I have never had one fall. And if it was loose I can pinch them in or replace the socket for about 2 dollars.
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IME, only the heaviest ones are a problem. Cheapo brands are much lighter than Cree which feels like an anchor. I was thinking of fishing line.
One of mine fell, had latent 
juice & shorted & popped when it hit the soil surface. I’ve blown them with clothing & the reflective bubble stuff. 
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True this. I have about 6 of the 5000K’s and 6 of the 2700k’s in various places. I had no Cree 2700k’s the first flower those are recent. I have about 6 3000k bulbs in that mix the rest are 2700k’s only 2 in the cabinet are the Cree’s
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Description updated. In the mite fight I treated 4 days ago by covering the root ball and putting it in a tub and using a Chapin gallon sprayer to spray cold water on it and shake the leaves in the tub. Remove cover and put in front of a fan to blow dry. 18 hours later dusted with DE heavily and brushed it on with a clean 2 inch paint brush. Over and under the leaves. If any leaves are tented or twisted or showing mite damage badly they are removed put in a baggie. Sealed and go out with the trash. I lack an incinerator and no microwave.
Wait a couple days and repeat.
2 Afghani are doing well.One was culled. I dunno if I do anything with these. I wanted to do a open pollenate and get a landrace of them. I don’t have enough for diddly. If they don’t stand out I won’t even bother cloning just flower.
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So today I have snapped some pics and will update with them later. I’ll post a reply when the pics are in this reply and just post todays activity to this one comment. It will keep the thread a bit shorter hopefully. I see a lot of threads here well over 600 comments and they are a bear to reply properly to when you first find them/ OP’s please consider summarizing those
As previously noted the 3 Afghani are now 2. They look real well and will soon need pots. Like the next couple days. Don’t want stunt them by leaving them in small cups and depriving them of nutes. but they should be fine for up to about 14 days after breaking ground. I forget how many days but they are getting larger than the cup so time to up pot.
This is the am and they look fine I’m thinking about 7 -8 days above ground.
The ‘Mom’ needs down sizing and the flowering clones are gonna finish soon enough that I need to get ready next one up. Hope I can finish another crop before the RH% hits the 80-90% range. She has a couple leaves shoing the sign of mites. I stuck her in the basement where it’s about 50 degrees for a bit. she will likely stretch in low light but in the low temps not much. I’ll bring her back up later. Don’t want her thinking it’s flower time.
The 2 flowering plants are doing just awesome to have so much against them. I see some gnats again and their is a little yellowing on some of the top leaves but the new leaves all look good it’s all fan leaves and older ones at that. Don’t want to remove many leaves at this point since it has pretty much all it ever will now. There will be new growth of leaves in the buds as they finish though.
This bud set is larger by far than the last time at the same stage. So I checked…these pics are f30 counting from the flip.
I have been following the watering schedule from the link from grasscity—today they got ‘neem/kelp tea’
https://forum.grasscity.com/threads/all-organic-recipes-and-notes-compilation.1421024/
I have that bookmarked and am still reading some of those links at times. My soil was made before I found that recipe but it is the one I intend to use for soil and the watering schedule I am following at the moment.
Mountain Organics said:
Here’s an example of a tried and true watering schedule (because I personally used it for years) to use from day 1 to ensure your plants are being pushed to ‘peak health’ and expressing their full ‘genetic potential.’:
Day 1 Plain water
Day 2 No watering
Day 3 MBP top-dress watered in with Aloe/Fulvic/Silica (agsil or your silica source of choice)
Day 4 No watering
Day 5 Plain water
Day 6 Neem/Kelp tea
Day 7 No watering
Day 8 Plain water
Day 9 No watering
Day 10 Coconut Water
Day 11 No watering
REPEAT - Beginning to end, no changes needed for various stages of growth, simple enough right?
Now for al the reasons previously stated your soil is becoming richer and richer as the water and nutrient retaining ability of your soil improves over time. By the 3rd cycle the plants may already be showing signs that you could back off on the above watering schedule and that can be done any number of ways to best suit your situation. For example, use half the amount of neem/kelp tea and coconut water. Add a couple extra days of plain water in between ‘feedings’, and so on.
As an observant gardener you should be able to notice plants performing equally as well even though you are using less inputs and in the same way you can tell if perhaps you backed off too much from time to time - in this way you can find the “sweet spot” for your garden and when that clicks with you it is very easy from then on to know what your soil needs.
Here’s an example of a watering schedule a couple or few years into established no-till gardens (it happens to be my current routine as well):
- Plain water every other day, beginning to end
- MBP top-dress every 10-12 days watered with aloe/fulvic/silica
I am on my 3rd round of some of these inputs (MBP) but have not had them all until last round. My reaction to what has transpired since starting on this is just …WOW!!! Please read the link for the complete guide if you are using soil and might want to use that schedule. The ingredients are not all necessary every round at some point since the soil is so healthy and that is not a complete table of inputs since the ratios of somethings are not listed there. Read the manual please.
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That’s pretty much the same watering/feed schedule I use. That’s a great thread full of useful information for those willing to read it all.
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We have figs too. We pinched them back and started them on that routine. I ate one of the ripe figs yesterday. We have started using it on every potted container. to some degree. Not orchids and cactuses but most of the rest.
And pics are up.
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Took some simple cuttings yesterday. Took some pics. These are on a little older wood than usual. Testing some things. Nothing too fancy yet.
Shredded paper and hydrated some coir. 20 gallon air pot and tray with a couple slats to air gap pot and tray. Just need worms now since the compost tumbler has been working since October and should be good to go.
Bought Brandywine tomato seed, chives and baby romas. Plante the chives. My first Brandywine seeds never came up so had to get some different ones. Repotted the rosemary.
Afghan # 1 is a perky little thing with smaller leaves. Afghan #3 has huge fat leaves and sulks a lot if you fiddle with it. The little one likes the attention. #3 also drops leaves hard before lights out.
Been reading of phenotypes and backcrosses and how to get a seed version of a plant you have. Guess I have a project.
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