Nutes for thought and discussion. Interesting article.
Your thoughts?
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Now Ed is oleskool!
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I hadnât started a seed for years until I did a few seed runs recently. Itâs fun but theyâre waaay more of a pain in the ass.
4 weeks until sexual maturity, then you can flower a plant smaller than a 4 week clone and hope itâs something good.
I do enjoy the process, but it is tedious and can end up with crappy results due to unknown genetics. My favorite part is selecting a favorite and turning it into a mother!
Also Iâve noticed that a plant is far more vigorous and all around better the second time I run it (ie from a clone from the selected mom), I think they get better as they mature to an extent.
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One more thingâŚI notice no one talks about âgenetic driftâ anymore. Back in old OG days alot of people thought that a plant lost vigour after being cloned many times as the DNA got watered down or something.
Personally I never found that to be the case, we had momâs we used for years that were always consistent.
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Turns out, this is due to viruses and pathogens not âgenetic driftâ. A lot of people are doing micro meristem propagation to clean up some of these clones. It can restore vigor on these older gems.
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I do both, seed and clone⌠clones only come from cracking seeds ⌠so I crack hundreds of seeds off my chucks and search through them to find something different to whatâs in the stable already ⌠this way it gets harder for something to be kept around if benchmarks are set by whatâs already been found if that makes any sense âŚ? I enjoy clone runs indoors as I know whatâs coming. Seeds I generally run outdoors or in a greenhouse and enjoy the process of the hunt. Itâs not always rewarded with a keeper but itâs still part of the process to find the preciouses hehe
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Amen dude , I have piles of great genetics and want to see whatâs in there , I figure with a proper timing of plantings a person can make a constant flow of decent females and the diversity is incredible, I have about 500 different strains to play with and always more coming in , so I think I can find a sexy bitch to satisfy my seed making habit.
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I never noticed clones being weaker (no taproot) in my indoor closet/tent garden, they seemed to grow the same as seed plants for me. But I grow plants from seed 99% of the time now, just because I like getting a different strain every time, and there are so many strains out there to grow and explore.
Iâve been turned off on buying clones from too many horror stories of spider mites, or thripsâŚthrip eggs are actually embedded in the leaf tissueâŚas a 100% organic grower itâs too risky to bring in cuttings
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Ya every time I get bugs itâs right after I bring in an outside cutting. I used to isolate them in a different area, and literally dunk them top to bottom in a bucket of whatever insecticide every couple days for the first bit. Then they may be considered âcleanâ lol
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Well said @Sunvalley. Much Respect bro.
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Clones are very business like and efficient. They fulfill expectations.
From seed plants provide a dynamic sense of adventure, as you never know with any certainty what you are gonna get. Of course this can be good or bad.
I really enjoy not knowing what genetic melange I may stumble upon.
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I like both. There is an excitement with seeds as they grow, change, and mature. One of the appeals of autoflowers is they are always from seed.
My family gets clones from me. I can tell them what to expect, watch out for, and guarantee they are all keepers.
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Well said sir. Seeds are so magical. Iâm always wondering if the ânext seedâ will be the one. If I had to depend on my grow financially, I would definitely be cloning.
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Sometimes they fulfill expectations more often not than does
Depends upon what your talking aboutâŚgeneric clone from lord knows whereâŚNOPE, take seeds.
ELITE cut from a KNOWN sourceâŚOh Hell to the YESâŚfuck them seeds.
YES ReynardâŚthey also come with issues, even Elite ones. Why I am at war with mites again after 3 years of 100 % CLEANâŚARGH!!!
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Oh I hated that shit with a passion.
Never had any of that crap till started into the clone game, wtf. Pm and mites at the same time.
Bombs, milk, some kind of sulphur sewer type shit, dove soap I could go on and on and on.
What 5-6 years ago and not a one was worth what I lost. I tossed everything.
Since 3 years ago itâs been smooth sailing, alas.
But i moved and itâs all new
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I was 100% clean for 3 years. KNEW the RPP and A.H had mitesâŚMY OWN FAULT for stopping treatments on them too early. I just COULD NOT wait to get them into rotationâŚwell, they are in rotation, and now so are soider mitesâŚFuck me with a Popsicle!
The little ones and the Momâs are clean, so when the flowering ladies come down, I shall get clean again.
Having RPP and A.H was worth the bullshitâŚmy 2 elite clones are just THAT!!!
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