Growing on the cheap! Korean Natural Farming

Ohh ok becouse i threw similar away couple weeks ago :expressionless: its made out of nettles and willow tree (branches and leaves).

Thanks :pray:

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Looks like good IMO to me, if it was black or a weird color I might think again :+1:

I have a 4 or 5 month old FAA that has a pretty decent layer of white beard on top of it. I just push it down into the liquid every now and then.

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I made one thats made out of cherries, but that one is stable :smiley:

Did someone try to make Water-Soluble Calcium?

Thats what i get. Its day 9 and in liquid ther is no more rection of bubbles but on the top there are still few.

In the recipe it said: :upside_down_face:

After this time, check if bubbles are present in the solution. If bubbles are not present, the WCA is ā€œsaturatedā€ ā€“ proceed to step 8. If bubbles are present, add more roasted eggshells and let stand for 1 to 2 more days. Repeat until the solution stops producing bubbles.

Personaly i think that process is finished :+1:

Any advice would be helpfull thanks :pray:

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Iā€™ve never had it stop bubblingā€¦ Iā€™d say youā€™d be good after 9 days. :+1::+1:

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Thanks for info @BeagleZ :pray:

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Excellent book download I have to study, wanted to share it here:

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You just gave me two good ideas reading your post. First, Iā€™ve been trying to grow aloe and comfrey outdoor, but I was way too busy this summer building a greenhouse. Anyways, I just started getting into microgreens and it seems like one of the best answers to a N based FPJ. I bought 2 bags of cattle feed grain that works well as microgreens(oat and wheat berries). I juiced some wheatgrass last night and they did taste like lawn at first, but the after taste was very sweet. Iā€™m actually excited to think of this because I can get trays of wheatgrass in about a week. The leftover root mats go great in the worm bin too. I moved my BSF operation indoors this year. I usually do outdoor bins, but if I want BSF, I have to move them inside for the winterā€¦ The 2nd thing that caught my attention was clam shells. My friend dropped some off and I wasnā€™t exactly sure what to do with them. Iā€™m not exactly sure what kind of shellfish it was, but they are THICK. You would need a hammer and anvil to break these apart.

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I was having problems getting enough liquid out of a canna FPJ that I just started making canna JADAM JLF instead. How has it been working for you though, maybe I was doing something wrongā€¦

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Sometimes if the ferment is a bit ā€œdryā€, Iā€™ll add a bit of water with LABS to it.

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Iā€™m curious as to how the JLF performed. Iā€™ve got two 5 gallon buckets out back: one is food trimmings (no animals, no oils), the other is a boat load of whole dandelions. Both covers over with water, and have been there 6 months. Gonna try em out soon!

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Iā€™ve had canna-JLF work fantastic, by far the best fertilizer Iā€™ve used/made. I basically put in a whole pot plant of materials - rootballs at the bottom, chopped up stems in the middle, some trim that was too low quality to bother hashing, then a few handfuls of wild grass and other greens around the garden on top. Then a pinch of sea salt and a handful of leaf mold like cho jr likes, but I added some ā€œyellow nitrogenā€ with the water. Wasnā€™t long before it was bubbling and boiling like a witches brew! Gentle enough I could toss unmeasured hand-shovel fulls into my watering can and the plants just thrived.

disclaimer: the brew had been ā€œagedā€ over winter before getting used in the spring

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Thanks CB! Iā€™m super curious to try it for myself!

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So itā€™s looking like Iā€™m gonna have a lot of excess plant matter, since I need to trim this monster and 14 others like her before putting them into flowerā€¦

Letā€™s say I want to ferment it all somehow rather than throwing it in the compost heap out back, but still donā€™t have any LABS made up. Will this work if I just throw the leaves into a jar with an equal weight of sugar, without the LABS, and close it up for a few months? Is LABS even supposed to be part of making FPJ? Iā€™m thinking I need to add something as a starter culture. I have worm castings that I use in brewing compost teaā€¦ I also have sour milk. If a starter culture is needed, will those be useful?

Iā€™m not married to the idea of making FPJ, btw. Just looking for the simplest instructions to turn these plants into usable liquid plant food of some sort. :wink:

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It is not required to add LAB to FPJ, it will get in there all on its own if you donā€™t have any on hand.
When making FPJ out of cannabis you need a lot of material as it doesnā€™t really give off much liquid like Comfrey for example.
I have been making JLF out my trim, stretches it out a bit further.

It only takes 7 days at most to ferment a FPJ

Hereā€™s my current batch still cookingā€¦

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I actually prefer utilizing JADAM methods for cannabis material.
As @BeagleZ mentioned, you can mix it with sugar and wait, but the liquid content sucks.
JADAM method is:
Plants go in a bucket (mine is 5 gal)
Throw one handful of compost in
Fill bucket with dechlorinated water
Let it sit for a month

Done!
Now you can dilute 1 cup in 2 gallons of water, and youā€™re using cannabis to feed cannabis.
Fair warning, it stinks something awful until itā€™s fully fermented, and that takes 3-6 months depending on weather

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I donā€™t know where this practice started, but itā€™s not KNF.
I think people want to shortcut the process, but Cho never adds it to ferments, and. As Iā€™ve said before, KNF is microlife based, so itā€™s dependent on the widest diversity available.
LABS ferments favor LA bacteria, so if youā€™re just going to add LABS to everything, they wonā€™t allow other microbes to colonize, so you might as well not waste the time. If youā€™re using LABS to ferment other inputs, then the only input you have is LABSā€¦ even if it was supposed to be FPJ, or whatever else.

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I have used LAB in making FPJ before. My thinking on it is thisā€¦

I am not adding anymore extra lactose which is what allows the LAB to out-compete anything else while making/propagating the LAB. Rather in this case the lactobacillus is already propagated and is there to keep everyone in check. I think of them as police at this point, just keeping the masses in line.
The LAB will enter the material whether you add it or not, im just giving it a little extra protection against unwanted pathogens.
Thoughts there @HeadyBearAdventures ?
agree Iā€™ve never seen Cho say this as a practice, I heard it from C.T. I think somewhere and i may have started the practice here unknowingly

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Excellent. Canā€™t get much simpler than this! Iā€™m guessing it doesnā€™t make that much difference what sort of compostā€¦ but that if I want to venture out into my yard or down to a stream to pick up a handful of silty river soil, those would offer some IMO benefits as well, compared to store-bought EWC or the compost Iā€™m already using in my pots?

Stinking isnā€™t much of an issue. Apparently Iā€™ve had a 5-gallon bucket of molasses fermenting in my garage for the past three years or so and never realized it. :stuck_out_tongue: It might be rum by now, havenā€™t actually opened it up to checkā€¦

Oh, and just to double-check, no sugar/molasses involved in this method?

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Leaf mold or active soil from your area will get you much much better results than store bought.
I would recomend more of a leaf litter rather than silt, you want the bacteria that is actively breaking down the organic matter. the more visible mycelium the better! :+1: :+1:

Dont forget a pinch of sea salt

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