Growing out the seeds that were gifted to me

interesting, it’s similar to Johnny Hempseed Collective except these guys charge money:

https://www.new420guyseeds.net/index.php/about-us

I can already see the description for JHC - “we are a group of extremely high individuals living on the North Shore of Boston, Massachusetts…”

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I never heard about this organization. Do they have a website? I did a search and only came up with this:
https://www.johnnyhempseedllc.com/shop

I don’t think it is the same as the Collective you mentioned.

Just your other two/three indicas to get now and you can chillax about buying online eh bud… good to see you got your indica beans @Cobra50.
Have a great time growing/smoking em …

Gaz

I’m not really relax about it yet, @Gaz29, but after a week or three, my anxiety over these first purchases will fade and I will be chillaxed at least with the sellers I’ve already used.

I have very little trust in the USPS right now. I’m (trying to be) patiently waiting on some auto beans to arrive from a friend overseas. I wonder how long they will be in Customs prison. The beans @MadScientist sent were in USPS Customs prison for a full month!

I always do, bud. :smiley:

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I’ll be responding you some autos, hope they make it this time. If not, F it. I’ll send it UPS or DHL LMAO.

:grin::rofl::stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

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Good day, my OverGrow family. I haven’t done an update in a while. I was very busy the last 11 days with my seed giveaway. So let’s jump right in, shall we.

I am still waiting on my tall Durban to finish its cure to be able to say what weight I got from it. The bushy one gave me 48 grams of smoking material and about 7 grams hashable material. It has been stored in a mason jar for over a week now. When I open the jar to exchange gasses, it smells just like the live plant did, a nice mild orangy pine fragrance.

First update are my Sweet Tooth 4s. These are from the pack of seeds I purchased from @Baudelaire. I took these photos on 8-21 and started harvesting today. All the ST4s have been in Flowering for 61 days. There are good many trikes that have turned amber, so I am adjusting the Flowering time for them to 60 days in the Strain table in my database. This is where the number of Flowering days will come from for an automatic Harvest date estimate on the next entry.

First up, the all girl plants.

I see the tags didn’t make into the view. The one on the left is 82, the right is 83. I removed all the leaves throwing shade from 83 seventeen days ago. I did this because I’ve seen many YouTube videos claim a higher yield by doing this. I have the ability to do this, without worrying if I’ll get enough from my harvest. I also took all the shade leaves from one of the next ST4 clones eighteen days ago, when the stretch minimized, to see the effects on longer term bud growth. More on that in a few minutes…

Looking at the above photo, it doesn’t look as though removing those leaves improved the yield at all. Top buds were nearly identical when I did, and now 82 appears to have larger buds.

I’ll try to remember to get a comparison shot after trimming both. Something I notice immediately was that 82 (still had leaves) drank a LOT more than 83 from that point on, so I was pretty sure in the first few days there would be no improvement in buds size on the stripped plant.

Here is some bud porn from 82 and 83:






I didn’t have the lighting right for the frosty view. Most of these pics are taken with my iPad Mini. I like its photos better than my camera, lots of mega-pixels doesn’t guarantee a clear image at 100% size. The iPad images look much better at full image size. It doesn’t have a flash, so I am working under 3 led spot lights and 3 cfl bulbs in umbrella reflectors

Number 84 is the female I reversed. This was both a success and a failure.


After removing all the material that was growing female flowers and shade leaves, I had visible male buds all over the small, popcorn buds. The problem is that they were all micro sized flowers that made bananas that were 2-4mm long. They were too difficult to collect from. I got just enough to see on the bottom of 2 small containers, hopefully I can get a handful of seeds from the 2 clones in Veg when they go into Flowering next week. :fingerscrossed: If not, this was a trial that wasn’t necessary and it taught me a lot through. I have no doubt the next reversal will be more successful.

I had thought about letting 84 keep growing for 4-5 weeks to get seeds from it, but there is no way of knowing which seeds are all ST4 and which seeds are part @Kalgrae’s BC Mango, Diesel Nightnurse, green pheno(number 98), that has been raining pollen in the Maleroom for the last 4 days, so I’m killing it today along with 98 (more on that in a few minutes).

This brings us up to the 1st set of ST4 clones, 94 and 95.

Number 95 is the ST4 clone I removed the shade makers from. They looked a whole lot more the same size in every possible manner before the defoliating.

It is visible here as well as it had been on #84. So far, the one retaining it leaves, 94, is drinking almost twice as much as the one trimmed and the buds are already larger. I’ll really have to wait another month before seeing for certain, but right now, it seems, the Sweet Tooth #4 plants are NOT receptive to this treatment.

This is a good time to segue-way into 90 and 91, my LowRyder x LaDivas from @Reikox. I also removed the shade makers from both of them. I did this the same day I did the largest ST4, #83. They were on germ day 69, 18 days ago.

Here is the last shot I have of them before defoliating, it was 8 days previous.

Here is what they look like today:


These plants have responded very positively from this. Even what would normally be popcorn are much larger. This will be standard treatment for these plants in the future.

These girls have another 5 days to go to reach the point that #80 was at trichome wise. I only got 22 grams from 80. This weed was sooo good, I burned it up in just 2 weeks. I stand by my earlier estimates of 35-40 grams per plant with these two ladies.This weed was an excellent, smooth, pleasant tasting smoke that has just enough sativa influence to keep awake until the party’s over. :thumbsup: These are going to be a frequent guest in my Veg chamber!

Since these will harvest in about 5 days, they has some pretty good bud porn for you as well:




I’m going to break here for a while. When I come back, the first plants in discussion will be about numbers 96 & 97, @Kalgrae’s (BC Mango x BC Night Nurse) x Diesel Moonshine, green phenotype.

More later, friends.
C50

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Damn you did the LRxLD proud this time! Making me want to pop some for my personal.

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So your at what day 88 ? on the LRxLD, well from germ so say day 85 from sprout ?

As for the defoliation, looks like you have the hang of it now. Myself i typically only remove the leaves that are either shading bud sites or are stacking on top of other leaves, whether their own or another plants.

Kinda two fold why i do it, first is when shading another leaf i find the plant senses the less light and then tries and proceeds to stretch to try and grab more light whether fighting with its neighbour or itself. Second is by removing the leaves that block bud sites, it allows you to get more light down onto those buds, which in turn grow a bit bigger and more importantly to me, finish quicker and denser in comparison to if they were shaded.

Looking good btw.

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Thank you so much, @ReikoX. I had good seeds to work with! :wink:

I can’t tell you what to grow for yourself, but I can repeat, these gems are going to be frequent inhabitants in my Veg area. You done great with these seeds!

Yes, exactly. They both took 3 days to be ready to bury. I usually go by germination day with seeds so I can give an age of a group of seedlings that were started together, since sprout time can vary a few days.

That is the way I usually do it. I also remove leaves the plant is wanting to get rid of. I am so far ahead of my needed stash, I decided it would be a good time to try it. The LowRydinDivas really thrive on it. With the ST4s, I’ll go back to treating them the normal way.

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Ok, friends, stoners and OverGrowers, here is the remainder of my grow update from yesterday.

I’ll start today with @Kalgrae’s (BC Mango x BC Night Nurse) x Diesel Moonshine, green phenotype (this strain is begging for a shorter name!!!).


These girls seem to want to be 4’ tall or more. I am leaving them in the 6" pots until they slow the stretch to a crawl. When I get 2-3 foot tall plants, they are easier to clean at harvest time and the smallest buds are much bigger than with the really tall plants, since they are closer to the light.

I moved these into the Maleroom to pollinate them without passing the pollen on to other plants. Anyone know how long is a safe period to segregate before moving back to Flowering?

I also have a clone from both females in the nursery.


Edit: I had this pic in the wrong spot.
It took me a couple of days to decide to take 2 clones, which is why the gap. I put 4 of my F1 LRxLD seedlings in the nursery between 109 and deciding I wanted a second one. I took these on Flower day 2 (109) and Flower day 4 (114).

I have the male I kept in flowering in the Maleroom.

He’s been flowering for 20 days, having started dropping pollen on Flower day 16 and I already have more than enough pollen to pollinate his sisters and have plenty left over for future use. In time, I want to breed these to a shorter stature, but I still have too many new types to spend time doing that at the moment. When I have grown out all the seed types, I’ll know which are my favorites. I’ll then start selective breeding with them first. I’m not deliberately making on any crosses until that time as well. I want to know what I am getting from each before deciding to mix strains.

Ok, we are down to my OG Kush.


I put her in Flowering 4 days ago. I mixed up a fresh batch of STS and started a round of STS treatments on the 2 lowest branches. I isolated them during spraying to prevent poisoning the higher up branches. I’ll be happy if the only thing I get from this is new seeds. I debated whether to do this or not for a long time, since I have more seed left. I had decided not to do it, all the way up until I decided I was going to do it anyway.

A comment about STS. I am certain the STS I purchased wasn’t as strong as what I made. The instructions that came with it said nothing about refrigerating between uses, nor did it say the solution was light sensitive, it only warned about heat.

I saw a lot more difference from spraying my home mixed STS. It could be because I left it on a warm shelf and did nothing to reduce light it received. It seemed to work at first, so this is likely the reason. However, mine is mixed stronger and works faster. so I expect the reversal of #100 to go smoothly.

I’m having a really difficult deciding what should go into germination next. I have 5 new 100% indicas that I just got and I really want to start one. I also have The Black x Champagne from @deep_rob that sounds totally interesting. But there are folks that have been patiently to see some of their seeds growing, so I settled on some of @99percent’s XJ medley that @Jellypowered sent me in the very beginning. I just made this decision this morning. It will be two weeks before they go into germ. I am trying to schedule seed germing a month between each, with clones starting halfway between.

After that, it’ll be either @deep_rob’s Black Champagne (I like that name, what do you think, @deep_rob?) or Chocolate Kush I purchased recently. It is sooo cool to have trouble deciding among many kinds to grow next.

That’s my update for today, friends, I hope y’all are enjoying your grows as much as I am mine.

Peace, family.
C50

Edit continued:
I forgot to mention the Chuy Purps x Second Sight I received form @pookie123.


Three are doing great, one (105) looks very strange. It didn’t look like that last week. It may have pests, although I’ve looked and not found any. Last night I top fed it and it looks much better now. So now I’m thinking I started bottom feeding too soon for this seedling. It has 3 roots showing out the bottom, but maybe not enough to support the plant.

I bottom feed as a method of preventing fungus gnats. Thrips like the bottom of the plant, but if I watch while feeding, the 2nd time I fill the drain dish, if the plant has thrip larvae, I can see them on the top of the water. They congregate together and move separately from the water current. They can be bug sprayed with the water still in the dish and I can watch them die. I use Garden Safe brand insect killer. It works good and is an organic solution, claiming to be safe to use all the way up to harvest day.

Well, that’s it for sure now.

Happy growing,
C50

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One is glad to be of service my brother. I know we don’t talk much lately but i’m always following along even when i’m being quiet. :slight_smile:

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I see the trail of likes you leave behind. :slight_smile:

I’ve been real busy caring for my gardens, trimming the beauties I’m growing here and learning things like germinating old seeds and plant hormones which actually goes hand in hand with germination. Oh yeah, and checking trichomes on my lab 'scope. The last one takes plenty of practice in observation because it takes at least 100X for my cataract covered peepers to see the amber. The focus field is so small, it is hard to estimate how many trikes are amber. It requires constant moving and focusing. I’m getting better at it though. This has kept me very busy, so I haven’t been available to have too many conversations, anyway.

I have some photos of my Sweet Tooth 4 plants (purchased from @Baudelaire) after the harvest trimming, I’d like to share with everyone. If you remember from my last update, I had defoliated one ST4 17 days before harvest day, and I had thought that it hadn’t responded well to the treatment.




I think this series of comparison of both plants naked and together, shows, that for this plant anyway, it was a wasted effort. The buds of 83, the plant defoliated before, are actually a little smaller. With this one, from now on, I go back to only removing the leaves when the plant starts killing them.

Here is a little bud porn from 82 and 83:



One thing I noticed that I found very interesting, my gloves only got hash stuck to the pad of my thumb on my tight hand. These girls are covered in trichomes and they seemed to want to keep it right where it was. What little hash that did stick was dry. I smoked it right away and it was excellent.

The weather around here has been cool and dry lately, so the humidity in the basement has reduce a bit. I can only fit one of these ladies in my Curing locker at a time. The buds I took from both of them 10-12 days ago were just awesome! It’ll be interesting to see how the ST4s stack up against the full indicas I recently bought.

I thought

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those are definitely some top-heavy ladies ya got there :smiley:

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That hash musta been real good haha.

Done checked out on us mid sentence.

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I didn’t even notice that. :confounded: I can’t even finish that thought since I don’t remember what it was. :laughing:

Over 425 grams each after I cut them off. I’ve only had 5 other plants that went over that on the initial weigh, and they gave me 70-77 grams of smoking stuff, so I think it is reasonable to expect that from each of the ST4. :clap::tada::fireworks::smoking::dizzy_face:

Here are the last ever photos of these 2 LowRydinDivas.



These next 2 photos show the lamp My LowRydinDivas grew under. It is a SolSheet, the original one, from @Baudelaire’s SolStrip Photon Solutions. These ladies have loved that light all their lives.

They were 24.5" and 25.5" tall. Their trimmed (wet) weight was 364 grams for the 24.5" plant and 373.0 grams for the 25.5" plant. That is heavier that most of the tall plants I’ve grown since I started my Grow database. If fact, the Durbans where lighter. The bushy Durban weighed 326 grams, while the tall one weighed 314.5 grams. These little plants are dense as hell. There are no popcorn buds on these plants. They are truly muffin tops!

I have 4 more regular LowRydinDiva seedlings that will go under the SolSheet as soon as their leaves get larger.

These gave me a lot of finger hash and still have frosting all over them

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Good weights @Cobra50 easier to ask then to hunt for the answer… What wattage did you have the sol strips tuned too, on what hours cycle and for how many days for these plants ?

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i really dig this thread good job cobra

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Yeah @Cobra50 bud , can you let me know if those solsheets are still avail and at what wattage is that one in your pic .?

Nice haul from, what was the strain.? I might have something soon, if it happens then I’ll let you know ok bro ,

Gaz

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Great grow @Cobra50. A perfect use of a SolSheet O. They were designed for small footprint canopies under 4 s.f., cabinet and small tent grows. The SolSheet O can push out up to 150 watts, but I like running them a touch under 130 watts. Great to chain in pairs off a single 240w driver to run in long shelf-style spaces too.

SolSheet Original

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Good morning @Baudelaire. Mine has a 100W driver and it is apparently sufficient for to female autos. This was the reason I purchased it, to use the extra space in my Veg. The plants like it so much that when I have a plant under the fluoro, but close to the SolSheet, they bend toward the SolSheet. I have to alternate the plants in that location. Since my plants love this lamp, I love this lamp!

@Mr.Sparkle and @Gaz29, I am using 100W and growing them on the same 21/3 hour cycle as the Veg plants.

@Gaz29, they are still available. @Baudelaire included a link to them in his post just above this one. This lamp is perfect for a small grow!

It was @ReikoX’s LowRyder x LaDiva. The first one I ran and I completely pollinated was only 15" tall at harvest, I never expected these 2 to get to be 2’ tall, let alone so big. I originally predicted 35-40 grams of smoking weed. After weighing, I think more like 60+ grams each. I’ll post the numbers when the cure is finished.

C50

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