Heh, ouch! That’s a nice looking male too! But yeah definitely a cause for concern in my book.
I ran 3 packs of the F1’s and never saw any herms whatsoever but I didn’t run out any of the males. Only the girls. My F2 girl is as solid as they come, I’ve ran her out at least 9 times myself and never a single ball nor nanner anywhere, no seeds ever found.
And I was so looking forward to try and get my grubby lil hands on some of the SSDD beans.
That seems to be a common misconception.
https://www.gardenmyths.com/gypsum-improve-clay-soil/
Gypsum is great for providing readily available Calcium to plants without raising pH, but doesn’t actually break up clays. It’s my understanding that can only be done with organic material, like compost.
There’s a great thread by slownickle on icmag all about gypsum.
Clays are different, too. Down here in the South, red clay is good stuff, perks great. Yellow and grey, not so much, if at all.
But, that clay does retain a lot of water, so it can be helpful to keep some in your holes.
All that said, I love gypsum 
Interesting you got pistils popping, too. No stressors? Mine may have been timer induced, but after yours showing, I’m not sure?
I harvested the sacs off the really trichy male today… trichy and very sticky. Not sure if I’ll do anything with it, but hated to trash it , lol!
If you really want to plant by the moon, the full moon’s too late. New moon, or waxing, is where it’s at 
The rest of your tribe are looking fabulous!
It really depends on what that clay is holding on its CEC sites. If it’s saturated with Mg, then the Ca will indeed break up the clay by replacing the smaller Mg particles with larger Ca molecules.
Definitely waxing. Ive had some of my worst germination rates ever when trying to soak on the new moon. Even with veggies.
I did have a timer fuck up for one day two weeks ago, and then I lowered the light from 11hrs to 9hrs a few days ago but that’s it. Could definitely be from the light change but if that’s all it takes to make pistils all over every top bud… I definitely felt sad tossing him but I just can’t go forward with a plant that does that.
I’ve had all kinds of plants herm in my flower tents but that f2 girl has remained 
stable. I’m positive there’s a male in these beans that will be the same.
Godspeed you @HolyAngel !
The hallmark of someone who knows what they’re doing with breeding. How many pack sellers would take a dollar and time hit to make sure they got it right like that?
I’m curious about that, do you have any citations that speak to that? I know Ca pushes off Mg, but I haven’t seen proven evidence it actually breaks the clay up.
Well, you gotta hold your mouth just right, lol!
I fucked mine up for almost 2 weeks at 10/14… then jumped back to 16/8, d’oh!
Slownickel’s tread on ICMag discusses it. I think it’s briefly mentioned in Solomon’s book The Intelligent Gardener as well. Likely also in Tiedjens More Food from Soil Science. Tiedjens is the Ca king. 
That being said, I would also add sand to help with the clay texture.
Yeah, I think it may be cause for concern but not sure it should stop anybody from continuing to search through the line looking for a nice male. The two males I flowered out were outdoors through the winter months so that may have had something to do with the one nicer looking male throwing a few pistils here and there as it definitely wasn’t optimal growing conditions. I don’t recall there be any on the other male although I wasn’t paying as much attention to it compared to the other.
Flower Day 12
Speaking of… TK(left) vs 91HPK/TCPK(Right)
And then here’s a closer shot of JJ’s Nigerian Haze
In other news, here’s some more TriForce #1. Couple hits of this and you don’t need to smoke for a few hours afterwards 
Suuucks to hear about that male & months of time lost bro. Super cool though to see your level of dedication to the project/plant & doing things correctly. That is a rare human phenotype/trait 
P.s. that triforce sounds siiick, no sluggishness is where it’s at.
Thanks! Definitely sucks 
tossed the last clone of him last night that I had apparently tucked in a corner awhile ago. Will start soaking more ssdd f2 beans here in a couple weeks and see if I can pull out a male that looks just like these #1 and #2 girls… may pickup a 2x4 tent just to have some more room to do that in since I already started other beans last week 
can stick the 3x spare rspec boards in there if I do.
Day 14 - Just before water and then lights off
If I had half a mind I’d go ahead and toss the SSDD F2 #7 girl as I’m 99% positive she’s just not what I’m looking for but I’m going to leave her be and see what we get anyways. The #2 tho 
And then here’s some attempts at trying to show the unique branching structure of the Triangle Kush
That, compared to these two HPK or TCPK clones
In other news, got these two gearing up for flower here before too long
And the new starts 
You planning on backing up w clones or just 1 run & done?
not only do those buds Look delicious, those MACROS are bloody awesome @HolyAngel
Clones of #3 already rooted, just haven’t moved her to the mom’s yet. Still need to take clones of #2, was waiting for her to stretch out a bit more. Then she’ll get same uppot into a 1 gal and then figure out where I’m flowering these out. Maybe right down the middle of the 4x4. No way just a single run, I’m hoping one of these will be my future full time nighttime herb.
@MissinBissin just for you, today’s smoke break flower
Well I hope your ReCharge was successful. It looks 3d from this end too.
Thanks for the “puff puff pass !”
