Ah, I’m all about topping. At the minimum, I find it’s the best place, or at least quickest/easiest place, to take a clone from
I would mainline everything in hydro if I can. Especially DWC, bet an octopot would work real well for that too. But yeah if you really want to improve yield you’re adding a good 10-20 days to the veg time, otherwise just limiting larf really if you’re not doing it for height… Soil is a pain for high stress training like that. Not every strain does well topped and manipulated either. Some you can just tie down and get the same effect or better…
If I didn’t need to take a clone I’d be more inclined to let the seed plant go untopped once, but otherwise topped/mainlined/scrogged in my book. I just don’t like having a main cola 1-2ft above the rest of the plant. Giant waste of light like that imo. All about getting a more even canopy for as much of the plant as possible in as little time as possible.
So I got to looking at things since they’re starting to show gender now in general… and I think there’s a good chance I actually have 5 PNL2 male’s and #5 is the only female
#1 is already showing balls after 1 day of 12/12 at least. Will have to stagger flowering the males to see what they look like and chop accordingly. Two of us with high male counts seems like a pattern
Maybe we’ll get lucky and the rest of the packs will be all girls
Yeah, I was wrong about the Midas being a male, it was one of the PNL2’s. It was in the back of the tent, so I couldn’t see the label, but it was way taller than the rest of the plants, so I just assumed it was the Midas (that’s been the tallest plant this whole grow). But when I pulled them out to water last night, I got a look at the label. It musta shot up like four or five inches in two days, way bigger than the rest of the plants.
So that leaves me with one PNL2. Bummer. I know I said I’d let it flower for a few weeks, just to check it out, but like your #1 PNL2, the thing was covered in sacs after only nine days, so I took it out of the tent. It has really big sacs, too, and a lot of them. Looks like it could drop pollen any day now. I don’t wanna risk seeding anything this grow.
Oh well… At least I know one of the strains I’ll be growing next round already haha. I don’t think the fact that you and I got a lot of males means anything. It’s just luck of the draw. And I think that bodes well for the next round. Four seeds popped, one female has got to mean that the majority of the seeds left in that pack turn out female.
Topping right before flip may be the reason why your flowering times are going longer than anticipated. I almost always top between two and four weeks before flip. Gives the plants a chance to recover.
Yeah definitely need some time to recover and grow out a bit or you’re not really going to gain anything from doing it.
This is my thought too, I popped 6 seeds, half my pack, I’d think that’s what it means… But statistically, we’ll likely have the same ratio in the rest of our packs oh well regardless though, will have some nice males to choose from
Yeah, one Midas. And one of the Stardawg f2’s turned out male, as well, so only one of those. One PNLf2 and four Uplifts haha. See? That’s the thing, though. I only planted four Uplift seeds and got four females, so I feel pretty confident that at least four of the remaining seven (eight? Did the packs come with eleven or twelve seeds? Can’t remember) PNL2 seeds that are left in the initial pack will turn out female. And if not, I’ve got that second pack. Although to be honest, if I end up with majority males when I pop the rest of the first pack, I’ll probably just say,”Fuck PNL2…” and move on haha.
You ever hear about this thing? https://www.medicinalgenomics.com/youpcr-platform/ I’m legit thinking about dropping the fifteen hundred bucks and getting it. I feel like if I’m mis-identifying male plants for females, I’m probably doing the same thing with plants that I think are male but are actually female. Some of them are super-easy to tell,”Okay, that’s definitely a male,” but sometimes I just THINK they’re male. It’d be nice to eliminate the guessing as much as possible.
Not unheard of for high male counts in a cross, but I’m also hoping for a lotta girls in the next half. We’ll see ^^
I have seen those, though that is the more expensive option I’ve seen Last I saw you could pay like $20 per plant to run a gender test but you have to mail off the crushed sample. I think I’d rather just run em out to flower and see for sure what they are or not before I’d pay $1500, but that’s me. If I was running 50+ plants or something at a time though, it might have it’s place.
Okay, so the suspected PNL2 girls, are confirmed girls! I’ve seen one tiny hair each on the #2 and the #4 plants, so I was right on those. 3/6 Girls. Jury still out on #3 and #6 if they’re for sure males or not.
My sole Maui Wowie Cherry Bomb, suspected male, was for sure a male and has been chopped. Meaning it was actually an Aloha OG since MWCB are fems. I’m gonna have to relabel the container from Sebring and update my notes.
The spotty variegation look on the bottom one is from spray from the e&f table hitting them and burning from the light/bloom foliar feed. I’ve moved them so that won’t happen any more.
Yeah, they offer the option of sending in samples for testing. But that, to me, defeats the purpose. Probably take about a week or longer to get there and then another week for the results. By the time I get the results, the plants’ll have sexed themselves.
The $1500 was for everything: the kit and then all the solutions and stuff you need for 300 tests. And I could do it at home once the plants have developed like two sets of true leaves. I dunno. I may get it. It’d save me some time and then I could start some new stuff as soon as I found out the sex, after like 20-25 days, rather than waiting until like day 50-60 to find out.
I mean, honestly I think it’d be the whole pack.
There’s no way to know now if what you get is a fem mwcb, or an aloha-og-mwcb-leaner. So might as well relabel the whole thing to aloha og and hope for some sativa looking cherry smelling plants.
Theyre looking good i like the spade leaves. Interesting cross i just found this thread. Im running a similar cross now. Nl5x sensi star but just 2 babies right now.
Didn’t you just say something about not having time for ten-week finishers ? I don’t THINK I’m quite your age, but I don’t have time for males, especially after the seed-buying frenzy I’ve been on the last year. I have way too many seeds that need to get grown to be waiting fifty or sixty days to figure out I need to trash half my plants haha!
@rooted Those should be great! They from Strayfox or?
These NL5HazeSensiStar are damn good but definitely have some variation in them, I saw a few different phenos in the only 4 plants I had. So I still firmly believe the “F2’s” I made are gonna be more like F3’s or F4’s. I know Mel Frank did at least one open pollination before I got them but no telling otherwise. I kept a haze pheno and everyone that’s tried her has been in love, including me. Especially the older crowd. It’s become my go-to daytime jar in really short order. I had a NL5SensiStar pheno that I didn’t keep but I did make seeds with, #4, and she had that classic evening indica high even just from smoking leftover seed bract’s.
I’m loving these FLC BX1’s so far. For my own notes…
Franco’s Lemon Cheese #1 (Lemon Cheesecake SLH Pheno)
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NL5HazeSensiStar #1 (Spicy Haze Pheno)
I’m expecting sturdy, christmas tree style, medium-tall(3-5ft?) plants that shouldn’t require much if any training nor support. The primary range of smells from the parents include lemon/citrus(mom) and spicy/black pepper(dad), with major undertones of sweet cheese/dirty-feet(mom), musky hash(dad). There’s also a possibility of metallic(sensi star) and/or possibly rotten fruit(nl5) smells in there along with whatever might be hiding in the super lemon haze or exodus cheese in the mom. They should finish in ~9-10 weeks.
I’m specifically on the lookout for 7-9 bladed, non-double-serrated leaves, and a particular spicy stem rub. There’s also a hook on the second set of blades from the center blade, on the fan leaves of the mom that might be a good identifier but need to do more testing for that. Again, goal is to find a male that matches the mom as close as possible and do another backcross to perpetuate the Lemon and Cheese terpenes.
I wonder about doing a “backcross” to my #2 plant. Would and would not be a backcross? We’ll see if she’s any cheesier than the #1 first.
Nice! Please take pics and let me follow along sir!
It’s gonna be some time before I can get to them myself. I’ve seen one or two others pop some of the #5 packs. So far it’s been 100% germ rates, and definitely have some haze leaners from the early looks of things.
So If you want nighttime meds, while you can probably still find it in the #5 packs, I’d definitely be checking the #4 packs instead
Yes its strayfox. First pack of strayfox i jumped for. Its northern sensimilla
bcsc nl#5(stray cut reversed) x vintage sensi star. Thats how they have labeled. Guess it depends on the cuts they used. Theyre fem seeds the nl5 was reversed. Says stray cut. Im hoping that means it was a cut of nl5 strayfox felt worthy of keeping.
oh well regardless though, will have some nice males to choose from 
one tiny hair each on the 
