Holy's Garden (Part 1)

[HolyAngel]

So, 60 days of veg time later… Purple NL#2 female’s have hit the flower tent!

Front to back is #4, #5, #2. Idk why, it just worked out that way… Right around 18 inches today on all 3.

If they’re anything like the males, I’m expecting them to finish around 3ft. We’ll see if they’re gonna need support or not, I’m thinking they might even with added silica every watering. They may get moved around a bit, will get better pics once they get going, I just put them in there.

NL5HSS #5 C2

Just continuing to stack I was kinda hoping she might be a bit more smelly this way, but nope. Sure is getting fat and frosty though.

FLC BX1 #3
So this happened

Pretty sure she grew like 6" overnight, was not expecting that. The stem rub is almost Exactly the same as my NL5HSS #5 girl behind her Was not expecting that either. Now I’m really interested on what the bud is gonna look and smell like

I literally just transplanted the other girls

As they were needing watered (hence the sad look… and a fert mistep ) every ~12hrs in the solo cups and I could only do once every 24hrs. Hoping these 6 inchers do a bit better job for me on that. I really just need to see structure and smells and they’ll likely all get chopped unless something surprises me.

Until next time! Thanks for stopping by

[HolyAngel]

Purple NL#2 Males

PNL2 Male #1

PNL2 Male #3

PNL2 Male #6

Still thinking #1 is the one I should use. #6 definitely has some trichomes though so makes me wonder

Bonus NL5HSS #5

[nefrella]

@HolyAngel

Still thinking #1 is the one I should use

Wowza, that’s a nice looking boy!!! They really all are, but #1 is pretty amazing

[mistergrafik]

Agreed! I like them all I want to smell the leaves they look so good !

[Badger]

I would for sure go with the trichs for potency if I were you.

1 is pretty for sure. Nice color.

[minitiger]

Yeah, just from looking at the pics, I’d go with the #1, too. But if the #6 has visible trichomes, I’d probably use that one. The purple’s gonna be there in the progeny whether you use the #1 or the #6. I think… haha.

[HolyAngel]

Right, I’m thinking maybe just go with the #3 male, hybrid pheno, since it’s kind of the best of both worlds. It’s a little shorter and less lanky than the #1 male and not as bushy as the #6 male. I’m thinking this would give sturdy plants with standard branching, not too bushy and not too lanky. The #3 male still has a lot of purple like the #1 does, and also has visible trichomes like the #6 does. Definitely seems like the way to go to me

[Badger]

That does sound like a good plan you have, then. Best of both worlds = win/win.

[oleskool830]

Looking good in there! All those stud males are impressive!

Blessings…

[WVMountainGhost]

Really nice looking males. When in doubt, make a hard decision easy. Use all three and see what happens.

[HolyAngel]

@WVMountainGhost

Use all three and see what happens.

Yeah I’ve thought about that, might not be bad to do on these since they’re all real similar in flower. I like to have a solid direction for my breeding prgram though.

IMO, If you open pollinate in F1/F2, you’re really mixing up those genes for the F2’s/F3’s, will make it much harder to isolate any particular plant out of this cross. Like in the F1’s right now, I can see 3 main phenos, a PU pheno, a Hybrid pheno, and a NL2 pheno, in both males and females. If I isolate two of the same phenos and breed together it should make the F2’s real separated and easy to see whats the same and whats different. Or if I pick one male for all 3, I know what to look for in the seeds between the moms and that 1 male… But If I open pollinate all 3 female phenos with all 3 male phenos, I’m pretty sure the F2’s are gonna be all over the place with no clear phenotypes save for the same-to-same crosses, and I’m not gonna have any idea which male is doing what. Could make 9 sets of seeds I suppose and use each male on a particular set of branches only Would be the best case, can pop the seeds and see which grows best, but that sounds like a ton of extra work though and I kinda wanna grow something else before 2021 is over

Much rather just pick one and go from there so I have some direction still… Worst case, I still have 6 seeds left…

In other news, i think I found the real reason not to put nutes in a cloner.

This is in <2 weeks. Most all of them have foot long roots and are 6"+ inches tall and growing like an inch a day Normally my clones are 1" tall above the neoprene when I place them, and I can usually leave them in there for months at a time with barely any growth. These are going
Currently Running:

1ml ArmorSI
1ml Calimagic
1/2 tsp Maxigrow
6ml/gallon/every 72hrs calcium hypochlorite concentrate

All under a cheap 22w led board, maybe a foot away.

So tonight/tomorrow I’ll have to transplant almost all the PNL2 clones into solo’s to ride it out for the next ~two months while I make a decision on which combo to keep to make seeds with Probably an NL5HSS #5 and #1, and some FLC’s to pot too.

FLC F1’s, #1 and #2, are gonna be hitting the flower tent here soon… Really thinking #2 is gonna be a bit cheesier but we’ll see. If she’s as good or better than my #1 girl, I’ll definitely mix up some STS and do Feminized Franco’s Lemon Cheese F2’s between them. Should guarantee anyone that wants them a pure Lemon Cheesecake girl. Also debating crossing Mango Smile into my NL5HSS or maybe NCH into FLC

[minitiger]

@HolyAngel

maybe a foot away.

As I’ve stated many times before, I cannot clone. But everything I’ve read, the light should be pretty far away, like four feet, from the clones. That may have something to do with all that veg growth. Or maybe a combination of adding the nutes and the light distance. I dunno.

[HolyAngel]

Its such a low powered light though, I’m sure they’re not even getting 1000 lux. Two of these 22w boards together were ~$40 off newegg. If I had it any further away they wouldn’t grow at all Again, without nutes, they’ll sit in here for 2+ months and maybe grow an inch in that time at most. Nutes made the big difference for me.

I’ve been running this cloner with this light on it for the last 6 months or so and haven’t lost a single clone yet, but this was the first time doing full veg nutes.

[minitiger]

Okay, well then the nutes must be the culprit. What’d you use before that? Just straight water? I thought you’d mentioned before that you did occasionally add some kind of nutes to your clone water?

Sorry for all the questions haha, I’m gonna be taking clones and trying to get them rooted using an aerocloner for the first time here next grow. I can use as much info as I can get.

[HolyAngel]

I originally did only ph’d water, as recommended, with the calcium hypchlorite for sterilization. However I noticed they tended to yellow after a week or two(unrooted), and sometimes I’d have to foliar spray nutes on them to ensure they’d be alive long enough to actually put roots out. I also had issues with PH drift, more so with the bubble cloner than the aerocloner, but was still present.

So I started experimenting with veg nutes against everyone’s recommendation. So far, outside of some minor burning or something, It’s given much greater stability to the PH and I’m getting much faster growth and happier better looking clones, usually in less time. And once they’re rooted, they can live in there for a long time before I really NEED to move them out. My need to pot them is only so I have more room in the cloner, not because they’ll die or something. ^^

To be clear, I experimented with low amounts of veg nutes first, this was first time going full on full-veg nutes. Same amount I’d run on a fully rooted seed plant. I’m running somewhere around 800ppm in the cloner.

[minitiger]

Okay, good to know. I’m leery of using any kind of bottled nutes, even if it’s just for cloning. But I may pick some up before next run. Whatever I decide to grow next, it’s all gonna be something that I have at least two packs of, just so in case something happens to the clones (like, uh, they die haha) I won’t have lost something that can’t necessarily be replaced.

I will say, the one time I had near-success with cloning, with some Mountain Temple and Goji, I used the plugs and the dome and the heating mat and all that. But I got impatient, came home one night after partying, a week after I took the clones, and tossed them all. But a couple of them did have some roots sticking out. I only mention this because the light I used for that (and I just went into the garage to check it haha) was just some tiny little bulb, hung four feet from the clones. It says on the bulb that it’s 13 watts and 870 lumens and it seemed to be doing the trick.

Wish I hadn’t gotten so impatient with them. That Mountain Temple turned out amazing haha!

[HolyAngel]

Ah yeah likely could’ve had the light a bit closer. And definitely don’t toss too soon. I’ve had clones take two full months before they ever even put out a root nub, much less a full on root.

I’ve also been really happy with the maxi line of powdered ferts. Maxigrow and Maxibloom, just makes it so damn easy and the plants are happy. I only use a half teaspoon of each one for veg or flower. Only bottled stuff I’m using are the silica and calmag products as those are still needed. Not necessarily for clones but the plant in general needs extra over the maxi line.

Here’s the lights I’m using for the clones and moms

2pcs 225 UFO LED Grow Light Panel Hydroponic Plant Veg Flower Indoor Garden...

[Blowingupjake]

@HolyAngel

’ve also been really happy with the maxi line of powdered ferts.

Welcome to the club bro Maxi series is the right stuff!

Nice work in here

Stay hazed
Jake

[WVMountainGhost]

I was thinking selective pollination. Pollinating three branches with each pollen or taking three cuts from your selected mother and pollinating each clone with each male. You definitely have good options. I’m a sucker for purple buds.

[oleskool830]

A glass of tap water and placed in south facing window still works.

Blessings…