James' Money-Pit Or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Octopot!

A little bit of real light and ppfd turned these two ladies into heavy drinkers! They’ll fit right into Las Vegas :rofl:

HLG350 is at level 9 of 10.
20" height.
Here’s what she’s pulling…


Around the center… Wow!


Buried in a rear corner… Holy Shit.

I really do love that lamp. I don’t know why HLG have it marketed to 3x5 tents. It’s seriously one of the best 2x4 lights out there.

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Looking good!

Not sure if you compared but I saw a change with PPFD measurements in my tents with door open vs closed.

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Most definitely. Mess with it too much on each grow :beers:.
I love to test and see the differences from center to edges, doors open, etc…

Thats why I’m so impressed with the two above photos with open tent showing 956 off-center and 768 buried in a corner with power at only 9. I just got those shots out the door as wifey & I leaving for night out with the kid (Stanlee :beers:). With doors closed, the numbers jump up a fair amount.

With doors closed, those numbers could push or exceed 1000 & 800 ppfd, respectively.

At 18-20" in my 2x4, lamp level 10 is doable if plants really healthy. Blue Dream is a big ?Question Mark?..
Also, Blue dream is a Sativa heavy hybrid 80/20 so she may need different handling

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Here’s Saturday!
Kind of an icky day in Las Vegas anyway, so just doing some maintenance with both grows and mixing nutrients for week 3 of flower. Going to mix up a little Athena stack as well for this week. This will be the final week of Stack foliar application.

My “Helpers” :roll_eyes:

Nutrients mixed at 2.2 EC and 5.9 to 6 pH.

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Gonna let the girls drink themselves to empty, then give week 3 solution as needed

Did some more trimming & tucking thru the day.


Stan always loves to help out. Gotta keep him away when lights are going.


Went a bit lighter on Blue Dream. Still unsure about her. Skywalker takes it all in stride.

Many leaves removed. Some smaller stems


Did a Stack foliar application just before bedtime. I’ll do two more through this week, and thats it for that.

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Looking really good :+1::+1:

What is this?

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Thanks! I’m tryin. Still not very good at defolitation, etc.
This is when these plants start to REALLY intimidate me. I suck at training.
I use horsepower (big light) to make up for lack of ability.
I do appreciate the good words. Im my own worst critic.

As for the Item in question…
I use it to transfer larger amounts needed for 5 gallon nute mix.

Its always Sofaking messy trying to accurately pour out those amounts fron the gallon jugs. Forget that. Hate spills everywhere. My bottles still look new outside. They will till theyre empty. :crazy_face:

My routine:
Insert disposable pipette into hand-held controller. Lower pipette into solution and press upper button to suck nutes up. When at desired level… say 55mL, release button and use lower button to dispense into my 5-gallon container.
I rinse the pipette between each nutrient. Reuse until it gets a bit foggy, then open new one. Usually one pipette goes thru several feedings. Works for me. :vulcan_salute:

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:boom: :boom:BIG Announcement :boom: :100:

It has been decided…
James’ Money-Pit’ next pair of willing victims is a test grow that Im just pumped about!

Octo-Wowie! or is it Octo-Powie? :crazy_face: Powie-Octo-Wowie! Courtesy of @BobbyBudz

These strains really caught my eye, and Im super-excited to be a part of the test group.

Heres the link:

When Blue Dream and Skywalker OG harvest and go into the Cannatrol, 2 of these strains are going in next. Cant wait!

This will also mark my second grow with the RainScience Grow Bags with Octopot, assuming all goes well in that current 2x2.5 grow. No reason to think not.

Im not sure which strains I’ll be getting, or how many of each, but I’d love to have them in rotation. I can even devote the Octo-Burners next 2x2 grow. Sounds like some really cool stuff, and again I couldnt be more excited!

Thanks again BobbyBudz for this opportunity…
If my calculations are correct, when these babys hit Octopot… you’re gonna see some serious shit. :100: -Doc Brown

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Have them packed up for Monday’s mail. Even though it’s going out in 4-1-24 mail it’s not an April Fool’s joke, I promise.

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Ah, a pipette mechanism. I’ve been entertaining one for similar reasons but the ones I’ve been looking at are the more standard straight mechanical style for smaller volumes. I like that design for getting to the bottom of jugs. I wasn’t even aware of the electronic pump type looks like my wallet lightens today :sunglasses:

I’ve been using bulb-type transfer pipettes mostly the 10mL graduated glass type, some of the flimsy annoying plastic 1mL type for pH adjustment, and a 250mL precision graduated cylinder. It is annoying. But I frequently make measurements 0.3mL, single-digit mL and the largest I need in my tent is about 100mL. It’s cool that the pump type could accomodate all of those ranges.

On the defoliation, I’ve found a lot of help on here. And like anything, with time, comes comfort.

Powie Wowie looks good :fire:

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Cruelest April fools day joke ever! :beers:

I’ll look out for them. Thanks again! :vulcan_salute:

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Happy Easter Sunday!
Or as we like to call it…
Day 65 from seed, Day 15 of Flower and Day 1 of week 3.

Canopy is shaping up :vulcan_salute:

Did some quick Door-closed ppfd measurements. All Measurement screenshots taken with windows and doors fully closed.

Northeast of center looking good at 983 Ppfd


While Soutwest of center is 1031 Ppfd…

Lt Edge of 2 foot wall 972. Good numbers :beers:


Stuffed in a corner 769 Ppfd. Sweet!

Overall, I’m getting some highly consistant coverage. Nowhere in this tent at canopy level am I getting less than 700 Ppfd.

Got a respone back from Grow Light Science advising my GLS ProGrow 320 is operating nornally. Im gonna really test it after this grow.

I can say without a doubt…
The HLG350R Diablo absolutely SMOKES the ProGrow 320 in a 2x4 tent. Not even a contest. I gave the GLS one a half chances, its let me down. Maybe I got spoiled buying the HLG as my first lamp, but numbers dont lie. I will do a proper “Face-off” later and start a thread.

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Went out for late lunch with wifey, and to bring Stan to park and play a little bit. Great it’s Easter Sunday as there are lots of families with their kids and dogs as well. Yesterday was a big grow space work day, but definitely taking it easier today. Did a little bit of work on the canopy. Looks like they’re not quite ready for a fill up with week 3 nutrients.

Here’s in-tent cam shots…

Low water level. Gonna be dry by tomorrow afternoon, I’m sure. Hopefully work out perfect with the nutes I mixed yesterday. :vulcan_salute:

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Let’s see how this changes through the evening and into the morning…

Girls have had a long day… 11pm. 2 hours after lights out.


6:50am. Leaves praying 2 hours prior to lights on.

Lights! 9am

Really hoping when I get home around 5pm today, the reserviors are empty. Im sure Skywalker will be, Blue Dream shouldnt be too far behind,

Ive noticed Blue Dream is starting to take off with pistils now. Running about a week behind Skywalker. Maybe thats a characteristic? Maybe just this seed/pheno?

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Blue Dream


Skywalker OG Kush

Hey guys!

Wanted to check out how much time in stages for both Blue Dream and Skywalker OG

Germination 3-4 days
Seedling time 1/31 & 2/1 - 2/17 is roughly 18 days
Vegetation time 2/18-3/16 is 28 days

LSD plant in my 2x2 grow is a seedling since 3/22/24. Thats 11 days so far. I was telling myself earlier this morning “one more week” until I call it offically Veg.

Seeing how the other girls have progressed from seed, LSD is on track despite a slow germination.

Had a chance to feed the nutrients made Sunday and made another 5 gallon batch as well.
Each girl fed 4 Gallons. They are up past the third float marker.


Stans helping! Sure he is… Not in the way at all, lol.


These little ladies are fully fed. Lets see what happens from here…

I do have 2 gallons of nutes left if they need it before sundays full-bloom week 4 feeding.

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Tuesday Day 67 from seed and Day17 Flower
Here’s in-tent cam shots…
Funny the effect lighting has on these shots. HLG doesnt like level 1 when waking up. It will back down to level one, but starts at level 2.
Anyway, gave me the opportunity to get backlit vs lighted shots…


Back lighting seems to have the effect of wiping out the pistils & flowering.


I really need to knock out a good defoliation this weekend. Day 21 is sneaking up…

Doing a Stack foliar application before bedtime tonight.

Will do one more FINAL Stack application by the weekend. No more of that for this grow, which is really great because foliar applications are a pain, and I dont like a bunch of water on my plants as theyre going to bed. It takes 30+ minutes for that stuff to dry off.

This tent is already turning into a humidity pit… Really, REALLY need to defoliate.

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Show us what’s under those skirts, ladies…
Roots galore!
Well maybe not that much, but pretty good showing of roots in the reservoirs


Blue Dream


Skywalker OG

This is after Monday nights feeding.

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Any bottom stem nub porn ???

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All you can handle Mr ifetish err ifish :rofl:
all you can handle

Sometimes during the course of running a shop, I forget I have REAL responsibilities posting my grow :vulcan_salute:

Day 68 from seed, Day 18 of Flower.
In-tent cam photos!

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Hey girls…


Looking pretty good after Mondays week 3 feeding (both veg and flower nutes)

Lights out about an hour for Athena Stack foliar application.

Will have final Stack application to do on Saturday, most likely.
Looking good so far. Skywalker is just Lit-the-fuck-up💯.

It’s still early, so I’ll reserve judgement on Blue Dream til later.

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