Landraces and heirloom (Part 1)

Merry Christmas, PJ.

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The 6th paragraph of the Nat Geo article, toward the end of the paragraph:

“One of the dozen members of this Bambuti Pygmy community trained to identify the correct flora goes along to seek out an important crop they say their ancestors grew long before them: marijuana. In the forest, the plants grow wild, and the Pygmies harvest plants and seeds when their village stock is low.”

That part really has me pondering the deep Congo past. In African culture, every tribe has a griot, the walking ethnographical library, orally passed from parent to child. The griot will know the real about the history of ganja amongst their tribe.

I read the Hewlett and Roulette paper. Many researchers say that pygmy populations rely on foraging for survival. Life is long and history is longer. People will do whatever works to survive. History is cyclical and repetitive. The isn’t the first time in history Pygmies cultivated ganja for survival.

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There is no reason cannabis couldn’t have gotten loose and gone feral all over that area. It’s a perfect environment for it. It seems like moving to another continent (or some other major change) brings out some interesting phenotypes. The climate of equatorial Africa is similar to that of south India, but everything else is different. Its adaptation/evolution is probably accelerated, since every year can produce up to 2 generations.

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I wish all of you a happy, healthy, and wonderful life this Christmas. Enjoy every moment with your family, friends and loved ones. Merry Christmas to all of you my friends :christmas_tree::christmas_tree::christmas_tree::christmas_tree::christmas_tree::christmas_tree::sparkling_heart:

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Dubi from ACE posting lab results, could someone with an ICMag membership pull those images in thumbnails for those of us who can’t see them?

P.S. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you as well, @Shiv9545 !

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The following lab analysis was conducted on behalf of, with samples provided by ACE SEEDS:

Ethiopian 5 parental plant:

Total THC= 9,47 %
Total CBD= 0,07 %
Aprox Ratio THC/CBD= Pure THC chemotype

The main terpenes in the line are: alpha pinene, beta pineno, beta myrcene, trans ocimene, beta cariofileno, alpha humelene, and some variations in d limonene and trans nerolidol.

Update: 3rd October 2019

The kind people from JadeNectar extraction company has found remarkable levels of THCV in our ethiopian line, with an approx THC:THCV ratio of 4:1 - 5:1. They grew 5 different ethiopian females and they mixed them altogether to produce an olive oil based extraction which was analyzed at SClabs showing THCV content of around 2 %. We don’t know yet whether the THCV content came from one particular female, or from most or all of them.

We at ACE were not aware of this, since our first ethiopian cannabinoid analyses performed at Canna laboratories didn’t show THCV content because at that time (early 2017) they didn’t have the standard to detect it. We will explore in depth the THCV content of the pure ethiopian line in upcoming ethiopian cannabinoid analyses and breeding projects.
I attach cannabinoid analysis of the rich THCV ethiopian oil from JadeNectar."

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The following lab analysis was conducted on behalf of, with samples provided by ACE SEEDS:

"Thai Chiang Mai cannabinoid and terpene analysis.

I think the Thai individual tested is a very representative of the green classic pure old school SE asian sativa pheno, very long flowering (15-20 weeks), that can also be frequently found in Cambodia, Vietnam and southern Laos.

The outdoor sample provided was grown in a not so favourable non tropical climate, with cold temps and rains in flowering, so contents of the sample should be higher if it’s grown properly in a tropical climate, but presences and ratios of cannabinoids and terpenes remain the same.

Moderate/high THC content (for a ‘wild’ P1 landrace without much chance of selection), with interesting contents of CBG.

The terpenes of the thai tested are also the classic aromas found in this SE asian sativa pheno: spices, old wood, slightly citric, green tea …

The terpenes in the sample are: mainly beta myrcene and terpinolene; with lesser amounts of alpha pinene, beta pinene, d limonane, trans ocimene and beta cariofileno."

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Yes! Thank you @RoryBorealis this information deserves to be somewhere you can see it without a membership

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The following lab analysis was conducted on behalf of, with samples provided by ACE SEEDS:

"Pure China Yunnan cannabinoid analysis

Cannabinoid analysis of our pure China Yunnan, showing an almost pure THC chemotype of high THC content (16,18%), with only traces of other cannabinoids."

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Same weather here. Sometimes the rains come early here and the plants get pounded for 2 or 3 weeks…recent tropical storm route changes ( veering inland and up the eastern seaboard) have added inches of rain some seasons. Not all resin is created equal. The resin of wet region plants is far more durable than dry region resin. The resin on my old heirlooms can take the rains. Many of them. Sometimes for days straight. Most resin will still be intact.
With Oaxacan, as much as I love it, the resin gets knocked off during one quick heavy rain.

Sure. That’s why water extraction works.

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Wait until ny weed starts to make an entrance to the scene😁

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Hunter gatherers help nature do her thing. The same places where food or medicine grows are visited over and over again. Like mushroom hunting, you keep going back to the same spot each year. I think there were and are “wild” patches of pot, but they are helped to continue to thrive…cutting trees and brush to keep a jungle clearing from getting overgrown for example, or scattering seeds…

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I’m on the hunt for some old school Hindu Kush. @Upstate @Heritagefarms you two seem to have your fingers on the pulse of which breeds/banks have the most legit versions of a lot of the classic strains… do you guys have a recommendation?

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Most of the good genetics on the east coast came from the west coast , I don’t remember ever hearing about people bringing packs to California :+1:

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The real seed company or Indian land race exchange, I used to recommend the landrace team but apparently there prices have more then doubled sense I last got anything from them and are to much at this point.

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Yeah. That’s the reason I asked here, I checked the landrace team a couple days ago and was shocked at how expensive their beans are

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Because we are mostly greedy New Yorkers😉
My area didn’t see any Cali genetics until about 20 years ago. I’m sure the city is another story, but even there much came in thru the port, not Cali.

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There is a growing culture in my area that goes back over 100 years. Maybe 250 years. Lots of very old stuff from Korea, Vietnam and Mexico.

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Yes, I also be in contact with them… and after they give prices… well… hell, that are not prices for preserving… I think.

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Landrace Warden, Pakistan Landrace Exchange, Afghan Selections and Landrace Mafia can be added to @Heritagefarms list.

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