Let's have another round....testing etc

[Olbrannon]

BPS GS and DBHP

These plants were doing better than the next pictured group. The only difference is the containers. Well and they were topped the next group was not. These are in the square plastic and the next up are in bags that have more holes. and maybe a tad more soil. The light is the same distance from all of them.

Deep Chunk x Jungle Spice

The difference in color is remarkable. I will have to change pots on the BPS’but for now I just spread the tops. I do think they feed heavy. I did give them epsom salts etc. They have all had the same treatments/inputs. All of them show dark at the point where I topped them. So any of them could bleed I think …but I’m like oleskool830 when he said “14 weeks”

I can only conclude the roots are much healthier in the one gallon bags.

Sometimes you know a plant is going to be special. It’s just strong and vigorous. The Wicked Widow was that way. I think this one here may be. Spicier more than sweet on the rub.

Two more might be either sex and one looks definite male but I am hoping/thinking the one above is female.

[Mongobongo]

Looking good man. I love that DBHP.

[Olbrannon]

Topped all of the Deep Chunk x Jungle Spice and now have 4 apex cuttings from them.

All of them are at least 24 hours and half are 48 hours and doing fine so far. They should branch more now and allow me to take some more cuts.

The split top afghan has become a nuisance and mostly leaf it’s gone.

Flowering out the Wicked Widow clone now and one each of Deep Chunk x JS and BPS GS to sex them.

[Ftlob]

My god !those are some gorgeous looking crosses! Updates please! Hehe Overgrow on !Out Standing!

[Olbrannon]

Two of these have identified sex. One of the BPS GS was a male and is no more. One of the Deep Chunk x JS has confirmed female. All of these plants are in 12/12 now. Except the identified female who is back in 18/6. All 4 apex clones are flying without humidity domes today and doing well.

[Olbrannon]

All have been sorted now and are in 18/6 One of the DC x JS has some pistils at all bud ends…might have to flower it out but wanted to take a few clones. Probably will anyway.

There are 2 female Deep Chunk x Jungle Spice and 1 female BPS GS. The latter I trimmed up as if taking clones but threw them in compost. It looks as though it would prefer to be large and sprawling.

The two DCxJS are oddly enough numbers 1 and 2. #3 was a very vigorous male. Those 2 plants remind me of the WW as she came to be. Very beautiful full structure, full of hybrid vigor… The leaves are larger. The scents sweet and light with just a few flowers and not the fullness of the buds to come.

The #2 pheno female is completely different. She must take after her father. She grew straight up going for daylight until I topped her. Now the side branches are attempting the same. I will be taking clones of her today if things go as planned and posting pics of the two girls to jungle-spice-outcross-grow-logs-black-domina/deep-chunk

[Olbrannon]

Took 4 clones from the #2 pheno today and watered everything that needed it. After cloning I stuck number 2 in the cabinet to flower at 12/12. Clearing the decks mostly for a tester run to come next week as scheduled.

[Olbrannon]

These bags have more holes in them and breathe better than the 4 in square plastic pots. I think the biggest advantage though is that as the plant grows a little taller I can pull that plastic lip up and top dress with a media/EWC to add volume for the roots. And like tomato plants the covered stem will make roots.

I probably won’t use those square plastic containers at all anymore and transplanted one clone out of one.

[Olbrannon]

@lefthandseeds Yesterday (29th) in the water they go. Chose the biggest and the smallest and half the rest.

6- Black Lebanon x Black Afghani maybe we can get at least a couple girls out of this to check out. Real lucky and we get to choose the best from 3 or more.

That could have some names eh? “Darkness Comes”, “The Black”, ‘Dark Shadow’

I guess @Leaf has about a 10 day start on me. Have not sunk as of this morning.

Meanwhile there is one of the Deep Chunk x Jungle Spice (#2) stretching and setting buds. This one I took 4 clones from a couple days ago and it has an apex clone about 2 weeks old. So 5 clones setting roots atm.

This thing (#1) is taking on more water these days. Due a trim and clone taking. Just haven’t gotten there yet.

Hasta la vista

[Leaf]

Looking good man ! I will pull up a chair

Happy growing !

[Olbrannon]

@lefthandseeds Of the Black Lebanon x Black Afghani 4 of 6 are above ground. Two of the 4 are twins. In this pic the one on the top left has just been trimmed off and is only one. The stem is still visible.

[Olbrannon]

Just 5 of 6 it seems since I pinched them back. Perhaps if they had been germinated in a paper towel I could have separated them. Too late now. Pinched back the weaker one with one easy choice one…well makes me think did they share a root system or were they 2 complete plants?

[Olbrannon]

Up potted the Black Leb. x Black Afghani to one gallon pots and watered them in yesterday. Got up this am and one had crashed so down to 4 now. If I don’t get 2 females may run the other 4 too.

Having issues with leaves yellowing and spotting on some of my young clones. Lost several and so cleaned the tray and have gone to using filtered water for them instead of rain water run off. Looks bad and not sure if any of those new DC x JS clones survive.

Up potted the apex clone from #1 Deep Chunk x Jungle Spice to a 2 gallon pot and it is already pushing up. The other (#2 apex clone) is not doing as well. I did up pot it too though.

[Olbrannon]

@lefthandseeds Landed. The lettering is difficult to get to photograph and can be difficult to read. I like the gold on black but perhaps on a black package it would be easier to read.

The white and black ones from before looked pretty slick and professional IMO.

As did the Megacrop. The meter should be here today.

[Olbrannon]

It’s sad really. Mistakes were made. The results were real Plants died as a result. In a brain dead moment I mixed up some ingredients and up potted…without giving the soil time to ‘ferment’ as a result the hot mix killed two more to this point. 2 are still up and going. I dropped 4 more of these seeds ( Black Lebanon x Black Afghani ) 2 days ago when this became apparent and have since planted them after they sank in Royal Gold Tupur albeit in only small 2 " pots.

The two remaining

The EC meter arrived and I had some issues learning to use it.

After some discussion and advice from @lefthandseeds I bought a HM Digital Com80 for about $30 It does EC and TDS at 2% accuracy. Not as good as the Aperia since it’s accuracy is 1% but suitable for my use case.

So whenever I get one of these new toys I am always checking everything with it and was shocked to find EC was nothing like TDS and glad for having bought a meter that did the conversions and would swap modes. From reading the manual it looks as though everyone reports in mS since the show numbers like 1.3 instead of 1370

I mixed a batch of Megacrop it tested at 1.4 and I diluted it with another gallon of filtered water and am using that on all of our plants. BTW I found a coupon code if you want to try some of this stuff just use OVERGROW for a free bag @GreenleafNutrients I assume this is still valid.

To ship that littler bag would have cost more than to buy a 750g bag from Amazon.

So let’s find some good news. That Deep Chunk x Jungle Spice is looking like a real winner. Stacking nicely the pistils are showing tight clusters and building on both sides of the main stems. The trichomes are large, abundant, apparent and beginning to frost on the sugar leaves.

Above is #2 pheno
I took 4 clones from #1 yesterday

And the #1 Apex clone

Edit note: removed redundancy

[Olbrannon]

Well the last 4 of the Black Lebanese x Black Afghan by @lefthandseeds are up at least… one never did sink and popped when I squeezed gently but did not look crushed. I planted it anyway. I suspect it is the one that came up with a helmet on it’s head. It was left for 24 hours after spraying…still covered so I gently removed the shell…it is the one in the bottom right.

I may not have the patience for it…though Meesh’s Good Shit experience tells me it could still come on big later.

Meanwhile the two survivors of the earlier round are progressing well though one carries a couple battle scars.

Oh yeah…9 of 10 germinated

[Olbrannon]

@lefthandseeds
So yesterday I found a sprout in one of the BLxBA pots.

Now it’s about 99% that this things is BLxBA. I had no other seeds in soil at the time. But…there is that chance…so although I suspect it is the one that did not germinate since I dumped those into my mixed soil I cannot assert it is without more evidence. I will wait and see what it looks like later. It certainly is following the same characteristics of the others.

That of course is assuming that it survives the removal.

[99PerCent]

Liking those rice hulls brother.

[Olbrannon]

@99PerCent

Liking those rice hulls brother

Me too. Attractive and reflects some light. Keeps the soil moist and adds potassium into the soil. Aerates if mixed in like perlite. Cheap.

So today I am going to add a few more pics just for Lefty ( @lefthandseeds ) the idea being he sent me these to grow out with the idea I report on it. So here we go.

The two older ones and the apex cuts that go with them. They had leaves picked up above the cup rim this am. One did not have a dome last night…the other did. About 8 days for each.

And then the 3 newer ones that are getting close to me taking that apex cut to flower.

And of course there is Speck.

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[Olbrannon]

Black Lebanese x Black Afghani
These are apex cuts and their ‘Moms’

I up potted the apex cuts from the first two a couple days ago. They should be ready to flower in a week and we can weed these things out.

These last 2 clones are in straight Tupur.