Looking for North American regional IBLs

The corn growers did not. The first rule of pot farming is never show anyone your plants. The second rule is never plant on your own property. Usually people from town plant in corn fields.

Makes sense, as a more reckless teenager I definitely did that a few times.

I have a family friend who did a lot of corn and soybean crops for a while and just recently found out he would also grow about $30K worth in a barn under lights a few times a year to supplement the farm

2 Likes

I saw more grows in barns in the late 1990s. Before that we did not have grow lights. At least not in rural appalachia.

1 Like

This def wouldve been in the 90s!
Man rural appalachia is a different world depending where you at. Spent a lot of time in the southeast as an undergrad doing field botany trips through some of those places.

We were specifically warned that if we came across anything that we were to quietly leave as if our life depended on it.

2 Likes

Because it DID ! :wink:

1 Like

Pretty easy to disappear in some of the parts, thats for sure

The most dangerous I thought was trying to do some fly-fishing in TN. I have been yelled and screamed and cussed out for stuff before, but nothing like on a river in TN.

Definitely have had some warning shots fired overhead for getting too close to someoneā€™s property line

2 Likes

yea. It used to be very violent here. It still is but more people are moving in and they build more sheriffs offices. Thats a good thing. I miss the unfetered freedom but im too old to deal with the violence. everything changes. Thats how it should be. :innocent:

Yeah thats the great compromise isnā€™t it? Freedom to do what you want but you put up with a lot of bullshit or law and order to stop the bullshit that comes with its own set of bullshit.

There is an Eastern band of Cherokee who are in NC that are allowed to grow on tribal land but the retail and delivering of medicine is boned by the state. I would really like to visit them and see their set up sometime. Ive had a few introductory conversations that have been really informative and gone really well, but I want to see them cultivate in the ap mts

The thing that is killing pot farming in the appalachans is game cameras. I have never figured out a way to detect a game camera. And now they are linked to the internet so someone in oregon can see you walking on their hunting land in WV. :crazy_face:

2 Likes

Man, I dont have a lot of experience with game cameras but that sounds like trouble waiting to happen. Id say buy a signal jammer and bring it with you but they arent exactly legal and Iā€™m not looking to encourage any crimes!

1 Like

Its only illegal if you get caught. Ha ha ha. :wink:

2 Likes

To be honest, real ā€œpot farmingā€ is over. All these indoor grows are great but its not ā€œpot farmingā€. A good outdoor crop would be 100-150 finished ā€œfull sizedā€ female plants. One man can do that with seeds and pulling the males by hand. I lived in California in the early 1980s and they farm the same way there. Actual ā€œoutdoor ā€œ pot farming became prevalent in the early 1960s and lasted to the mid 1990s. Now it is dominated by indoor grows. Those are ā€œtoysā€. Much like the ā€œmountain man ā€œ era ( lasted 20 years) and the real ā€œcattle drivesā€ ( lasted 11-13 years) pot farming has passed. The mexican drug cartels are taking over and they dont need money. They want CONTROL and territory. Also, in appalachia you now have the opioid epidemic that has f-cked up several generations in some familys. So all things change. All things pass. That is the nature of life. :rainbow:

7 Likes

Vermontman at green mountain seeds has been growing and breeding Oaxacan Gold in New England for 40 years

Maybe look into bubblegum? Used to see it in the south burbs of Chicago 20 years ago when people would bring it back from school in Bloomington.

6 Likes

@ThePotanist . I have a quick question. I have always read that synthetic fertilizers kill the myco fungi and micro life when added to soil. Does it kill them completely or can the soil life recover and come back to thrive again ? I occasionsly use ā€œPH Perfectā€ from Advanced Nutrients to save a plant that is having problems. Am I killing my soil life?

1 Like

Welcome to OG!

Iā€™ve got a few packs of the ACE/green mountain stuff. Iā€™ve got a bunch of purple MichoacĆ”n and MichoacĆ”n x GDP that I want to cross with some of his stuff at some point. Iā€™m a sucker for a good story!

1 Like

I know your question was directed at @ThePotanist but I figure a question like that is kinda open for answers so hereā€™s my thoughts.
I donā€™t think advanced nutrients or other bottled/granular nutes are synthetic. They still use minerals and such from natural sources. I grow in my greenhouse with organic mixed soil and I have used General Hydroponics liquid ferts when some plants need a boost with no ill effects. I think it even says on the bottles that it will not harm microbial life. Iā€™d be curious to hear otherā€™s ā€˜factualā€™ comments on this one. I would say based on my greehouse practices over the years, I canā€™t see how advanced nutrients ferts would be detrimental to soil biology.
side track to the topic but figured Iā€™d reply

4 Likes

Thank you. My question was for everyone. I will always consider all answers and replys. :grin:

2 Likes

Just my 2 cents, but I think the issue comes from overdoing it on them, too much too quickly. Theyā€™re salt based usually, and high levels of salt will kill or harm lots of different organisms. I know for example that fish tank owners have talked about liking osmocote to feed their aquatic plants because its gradual delivery prevents the fish from getting shocked like adding a liquid concentrate would

4 Likes

iā€™d agree with that. Definately donā€™t want to use stong feeds for sure and avoiding any build up of salts as well. Iā€™m studying the high brix methods of feeding the soilā€™s organisms instead of feeding the plant and want to get away from adding any commercial fertilizers. I ran straight water this summer and I am super happy with the results from the greenhouse harvest. Iā€™m not using the high brix methods yet, still learning. One of my friends suggested foilar spraying the general hydro instead of root feeding which I didnā€™t do but I can see the advantage of feeding the plant that way versus using the ferts on the organic soil.

1 Like

So Iā€™m holding some of Katsuā€™s Magnum Opus F11ā€™s which is a selection of the Royal Kush line! Does that mean it translates as an IBL or is F11 a better connotation?

2 Likes