Making a fall members box a possibility 2022 edition

I’ll devote a chunk of one of my tents, and perhaps some additional beans from the run I’m starting now. :v:t2:

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@TopShelfTrees1 @Reefer @Eagles009 @bunny I have the tentative list for those who can do a seed run for the community at the top of this thread. I think it’s post 3. Feel free if you feel like you can do a run to add your name to the wiki. There is a strain donations list at the top. I figure if we can get 5-10 folks who are willing to then we should be able to get this rolling.

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I think Khalifa spent some effort working this and it is still easily available. Not a good candidate for a coop run in my opinion.

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I don’t think you have much to worry about bud. Many runs will get done regardless as they have in the past. 12 runs included in the last fall box or at least sent in to be included. This page will help match donators with growers which is cool but I don’t think there is any question that there will be a spring and fall box.

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I don’t think I have anything worth preserving, so if anyone has some cool beans give me a shout! Also willing to toss in a little cash for the cause towards buying a pack!

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Canada is ready :wink:

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what would be considered cool beans? i’ve only recently started collecting, so i’m not sure if the packs i’ve chosen would apply. but i am curious to know what would be sought after around here.

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Old, rare, discontinued lines from known breeders would be a good place to start looking. Might be easier if you list what you have.

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Good things come to those who wait right? My summer grow I’m going bananas with all the banana cultivars I can find( got about 20 so far)! So I’ve been saving the pollen from the BCP males and my garden gonna get cream pied this year :slight_smile: this year is gonna be awesome but next year though…:grin:

As for the others giving fat piles I’d have to correct you there and say giving dark beans for “us” first ones I’ll personally be mailing are the direct voters that put in their votes for the winning strains, they wanted it the most and spoke up :slight_smile: next in line is the ones the took part in the grow log :slight_smile:

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oh, i doubt i’d have anything especially prized then. i suppose it’s like a barnes & noble shopper going to a rare, vintage bookstore and asking what they’d be most interested in.

my first purchase was through nasc, where i picked up some of laughing buddha (barney’s farm), durban poison (dutch passion), and neville’s haze (green house seed).

after the sting of paying top dollar for these top shelf (?) seeds, i dug for cheaper sources and bought batches of seeds from energenetics, mt zion, and colorado sativas. lots of seeds for much fewer dollars.

but because i’m an addict, i then picked up some world of seeds varieties… wild thai, colombian gold, kilimanjaro, and s.a. kwazulu. then i made a move on fleur de mal’s durban and cinderella mix packs. i wanted to get some of their other strains as well, but i was trying to be reasonable.

my last seed purchase i bought from mandala seeds… kalichakra, 8 miles high, satori, golden tiger, mandala #1. and i also decided to get the vip pack at tropical seeds, which has nl#5xhaze, a few crosses with that, and loveshack and crosses with that. but i’m still waiting on those to arrive.

if there’s anything remotely interesting in there, i’d be happy to offer them up for a run. but they were all purchased recently, so they’re not exactly hard to get.

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When it comes to prized ones that would be excellent to get into more peoples hands and gardens would be varieties such as Pinkman’s goo, Dr grinspoon, black African magic, ducksfoot, road kill skunk, punta Rojas, lambs bread and Doug’s varin as the main ones that come to mind for some excellent candidates, question is who’s got seeds for any of em

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I received three seeds of these from @Vertebrata . They are fems, as I believe was the only way to get these. They would have to be run as fems, which I planned to do at some point, but right now I have enough on my plate…

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co-op was just done on RKS here :slight_smile:

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Shoot me that link double D! I know someone that would love to get a few for their garden this year

They did come in regs at some point and one of the grower notes I’ve seen on it that sex is extremely hard to determine till at least 3rd or 4th week of initiating flower. I’ve got 4 regs of it I think but didn’t come in a breeders packs so cannot validate source or legitimatacy of the seeds just taking the sellers word for it that’s what they were, havent touched em cuz I want to be sure I’m ready to preserve if I pop those

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Speaking of which, I bought some of these a while back, and was planning to run some of the Kwazulu next if the germination gods smile… I’m a bit curious to see what people think about running these for preservation. As far as I can tell, all these seeds from their “Pure Origins” catalog are actually hybrids, advertised as pure 100% sativa landraces but with 65-70 day flowering periods. Considering that they’re lying about the landrace status of their seeds in order to sell them, how do people feel about the ethics of reproducing them for the co-op? Assuming, of course, that they’d even be wanted for a repro. I already have them, so I’m out the $100 or whatever it cost anyway, but I wouldn’t have bought them if I’d realized and personally I don’t feel it’s necessary to respect the wishes of the breeder in this case. What they said they were selling me has no breeder.

Similar question on this one. I have a pack of Ducksfoot BX from Annunaki, Frisian Duck x Ducksfoot (or vice versa?) - since I bought these, do I have to get their permission to do a repro? Are Annunaki even still active? Obviously their packs are still available, but their website lists a bunch of seedbanks that they say carry their work and the seedbanks don’t list them as breeders anymore.

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The link is below but the sign up is closed. The seeds are ready to go out in the fall box in Canada. The rest of the world will be seeing them in the spring box as Sebring has already started shipping. There should be plenty out there to grab or trade for soon.

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Thanks Doug! I’ll just be keeping my ear open for a few to carry in the wind my way for her, not even my taste. I like the fruity and sweet smelling cultivars, she’s into that stank, to each their own haha

I don’t see an ethics issue with it, especially if your not offering them for sale but rather sharing to keep the genetics alive. If your growing em out then your continuing the work and giving them the credit as the source not claiming its your creation. Nothing wrong with that, if they didn’t want people being able to reproduce em then they should only be offering fems or put disclaimers of a patent number on the pack, as far as I know freakshow is one of the mainstream strains the breeder has a pretty tight hold on as his creation but people still carrying on the generations 🤷 just my .02

I’ve also got 4 seeds of Frisian duck but not the original ducks foot

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In general the seeds are yours to do whatever you want to. The breeder has no say once they sold them to you. For the coop I think the idea was to play nice and not interfere with the business of breeders people love. I think it basically started with Bodhi strains.

Personally I’d decide that per breeder/strain. Like, a really overpriced strain should be made available to everybody and I don’t care about the breeder. :stuck_out_tongue:

I don’t think there will be more resistance than someone mentioning a reason why a strain might not be a good choice, like I did with the Beldia some posts up. Nobody can stop you if you want to make seeds from whatever strain.

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That’s not how the co-op works, though. I don’t necessarily understand what “breeder” means half the time, but we have to respect the breeder’s wishes. Take Freakshow though; I got a pack of that from 7 East Genetics, not Shapeshifter or even HSC. Who’s the breeder, and who should be asked if I wanted to preserve that for the co-op rather than just preserving it for myself? I wouldn’t know how to get in touch with Shapeshifter if I tried; 7 East told me that by purchasing from them, I was effectively signing a contract to keep the genetics free; HSC would presumably have a problem with distributing one of their lines, to the extent it’s theirs. :man_shrugging:

I definitely had noticed that a disproportionate number of the preserved strains seemed to be from Bodhi. :wink:

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I have to agree with you @allotment . I guess it’s really about respect for the breeders in the end. When you buy seeds they are yours and as such you can do as you wish. Out of respect you don’t really want to compete with currently sold strains costing breeders money. I also agree with reproducing seeds that some are gouging the public on. When breeders set such ridiculous prices with no guarantees of germination it really does tend to make me lose respect for them.

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