Males, why are you breeding them

Assuming this is a polyhybrid cross that isn’t at all uniform: I wouldn’t make any selection on the males the first round. Increase the seed with all the males that make pollen. Then, when there are 100-20,000+ seeds, you can get ruthless with selection in the next generations.

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So this is what I’m most likely going to be doing.
I have a question though if you’re available.

I remember hearing a lot back in the day that selfing for too many generations will guarantee herms. Is this true?

Also does anyone know if the SLH from greenhouse genetics is a viable s1 partner? I’ve heard rumors they bred it to herm if you try this. Sounded plausible I guess but I have my suspicions. Can anyone clarify?

If your females are shit don’t breed them. If your male shoots pistils it’s intersex(hermie)

It makes me feel better seeing someone else say this.

I will see a nanner here or there sometimes and it always makes me think I’m doing something wrong.

I rarely, like almost never, see any seeds.

I’m thinking that if there’s any pollen in those little rando nanners, it’s not viable or maybe they present so late, it just doesn’t matter? :person_shrugging:

I grew out Franco’s lemon cheese from them which is their slh x exodus cheese fems. First gen was stable tho crap germ rates. Made a cross with a stable nl5haze line that’s been tested. The offspring from that cross had some herms. I can only conclude that one of greenhouses plants carried the gene, or reversing the cheese caused the herms in the second gen. Which is what I’ve heard before, first gen reversal = fine, but if you do anything with it = herms. I can’t prove it tho.

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What’s good Growmie I usually look for vigor Terpenes and resin production . I do like to keep 2 different males if they are similar enough as some pass on their genes better than others.

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Whichever ones survive my setup. :smile:

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You breed in bad recessive genes too quickly when you self too much. But once you have seeds, you can breed siblings after that, just fem breeding.

I would probably self a really good female selection, and then grow some out to see if turned out any good. After that you can take it wherever you want.

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I don’t remember exactly… but I remember hearing about herm issues when breeding with SLH. They would be fine to flower but the second you breed with it you could have issues. I faintly remember this so don’t take me at my word.

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You can reverse a male to see what it looks like In it’s female expression, according to some if it displays both male and female parts at that point it’s good to breed with, if it goes completely female then it should be discarded as it has recessed genes for hermaphroditism.

On the other hand, the amount of environmental stressors, and wild crossings of genetics, until on works a line, with 10’s of thousands of seeds popped of each generation, one can’t pinpoint what is actually happening.

So much like an artist, go with your heart and have a pure intention, even if it doesn’t work out, each rising sun brings a new chance to make a mess. So get messy!!!

I though look for a few things. Pre sex from pot restriction is a tentative thing, if he can handle the small pot with out showing sex, get transplanted flipped, cut, reveg, and then have a similar flowering period, I go with it, but I’ve also just found ones that catch my eye and hope for the best.

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Well to me if you look at the genealogy of SLH you can see it’s a super hybrid. Or mega poly hybrid.

It uses super silver haze and lemon skunk, which uses the skunk 1 as a anchor, and then throws haze, and a haze back cross, and then the lemon skunk. It’s original skunk which maybe skunk 1 maybe not and Chitral which could be paki or whatever.

My point is genetics are funny. And the further you dive into them the more you see the flaws of man’s design to understand them. As nature isnt always so finite, so a lab report really only shows 1% of our understanding of what’s actually happening.

Though science has come leaps and bounds. And we now have a better idea, it’s really just up for interpretation at a lot of points once you dive deep into it.

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Yeah a very good point. We’re chucking genetics from all over the world at each other. In all sorts of random combinations too.

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Yeah I feel so drawn to make a SBxSLH cross. You ever have that feeling somethings just right and it can’t be wrong lol?

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For me, if I make a cross and only one seed come out, take the 88g13hp that I pollinated with RKS pollen. Only got one seed out the whole plant lol.

But if I get a 100 seeds, grow them out, and only find two stable keepers. Then that’s a win for me. Wild genetic pools can need self pollinating qualities at points, for indoor stable biomass producers we need non self pollinating varieties.

All in how you look at things really. But for mass production one sure better do thier due diligence or the masses may come knocking lol.

It’s ok to be able to make it work :rofl::joy::joy::rofl:

I’m making my first seed run and starting my first breeding projects.

I have no clue what I’m doing, but here’s my plan… lol

1.) Weed out all seedlings that didn’t pop and grow with vigor.

2.) Eliminate all runts, herms, and any oddities that don’t intrigue me.

3.) Stress test in less than ideal conditions. My breeder will not get treated nicely and I will try to keep them smaller by giving them less light, colder root zones, and some crowding.

4.) If they make it past 5-6 weeks they will be judged on smell and structure and how early they start to produce.