couldnt find a contact but did find this
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Did you try messaging him at FB and LinkedIn?
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https://www.instagram.com/p/i5A0_jPxCF/?igshid=1tiwtg588l4za
This is his IG, he doesnt seem very active these days. This painting is of him sitting in a chair in Clearlake.
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GrandDaddy Purple Seeds has the real deal I thought they got it straight from Ken years ago, someone could possibly clarify that I could be wrong or misremembering, or if their offering it has changed over time.
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hmm i thought grand daddy purps was ken Estes, probably wrong lol
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Tried both with no answer. The pictures have a water mark of 2015 and I really don’t see much pertaining to him. I also know that an alias is different sometimes.
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From my fading memory Estes and Grand Daddy Purple worked as a company together. There was a split, and one of them ran off with the moms. Someone else can probably fill in more details.
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ahhh so maybe Mel ended up with the original Mother and ken didnt?
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I don’t think Mel was associated with GDP but he may well have gotten the original mom and seeds.
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Thank you @Comacus, makes me wonder on all those other strains that everyone has lol . If no one has some one should write a book about these things.
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From my fading memory Estes and Grand Daddy Purple worked as a company together. There was a split, and one of them ran off with the moms. Someone else can probably fill in more details.
grandaddy purple is Ken Estes’ company. it used to be a prop 215 collective as well.
He was working with another breeder, who left and started a company called dungeons vault. When that guy left, he kept the stock he made while working on that collaboration and sold it as dungeons vault, and may have taken / kept without permission clones of some of ken’s mother plants.
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Thank you for clearing that up for me!
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My buddy knows him so I sent dvg a message in hopes of some info. Another direction for me to search in thank you.
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So after talking with dvg. Kens gdp was clone only, which then leads to most of what we see is based off the clone. Then it was said it was possible seed stock Ken gave Mel. So again it’s about as close as I am going to get.
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That’s what I though, but if someone actually worked the line though could get stable seeds.
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https://www.seedsman.com/en/granddaddy-purple-seeds-original-grand-regular-seeds. Now im no expert but i believe these would be the closest to the original and not mels. After all, GDP genetics is ken estes company.
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isnt seedsmans pic of it awesome?
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So after talking with dvg. Kens gdp was clone only, which then leads to most of what we see is based off the clone.
well the old oakland / bay area commercial cut is a clone only. This cut is considered the official / original Grandaddy Purple. This is apparently the cut which is now called Ken’s GDP. Grandaddy Purple was always a seed line. The seeds are not made from the clone, the clone is a selected pheno of the seed line.
Grandaddy purple was always a seed line, but it has a lot of diversity including green phenos.
For an example of one of these other gdp phenos, the bay area champagne cut (called champagne, phantom, or moet) is a green gdp pheno. Ken worked with this cut labeled as phantom.
This cut can also be found in bodhi’s bingo pajamas strain, but bodhi referred to it as “Kudra” because the cut came to him with the moet label and he didn’t want to use a brand name.
Then it was said it was possible seed stock Ken gave Mel. So again it’s about as close as I am going to get.
Ken was raided multiple times in the 90’s and 00’s. He gave seeds to growers all over the bay (and beyond) to back up the strain and protect it from raids. It would make perfect sense for him to have sent backup stock to Mel.
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Loving all this history here you all are teaching me so much and I’m sure others as well. Much appreciated.
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it seems so twisted always, now i wonder was GDP like C99 and the original was lost. Not that it matters that much but it is interesting
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