Mr Nice hermaphrodites

I started the year by purchasing 4 packs of seeds from the Mr Nice auctions, I’d been hearing about their Skunk genetics for decades and decided to give them a shot. I bought Critical Skunk, Devil, Early Skunk and Early Queen. I have a couple of the Early Queens and Early Skunks vegging outside in the garden. I decided to grow the Critical Skunks and Devil indoors. I’ve grown all the Devils and half the Critical Skunks, I received 100% males and hermaphrodites. Every…fucking…one. My tent is full of seeded plants now. When I first noticed the trend in the Devils I contacted their support service. I was told they were very concerned and convinced that the problem occurred during delivery and asked me for another address to resend it to. So, has anyone ever heard anything about seeds turning hermie due to something that happened during delivery?

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Nope it’s their genetics.

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Sounds like a they problem to me :thinking:

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Nope, but about a decade ago I ran Mr Nice gear and herms were rampant for me with his gear, but the stable plants are nice and strong. Had a la Nina that was off the charts strong

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Sounds like a shot at an excuse…. A terrible one but a try. That sucks my friend, truly

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Actually in war with them to get … my payment not ghosted. Like my emails. Long journey.
I’m now frightened for the Critical Mass, if ever they come back from their break in plain chaos ^^ Damned, nothing change in some latitudes.

Delivery don’t create herms. Pollination do.
I think that the customer service is actually sweating blood, don’t mind and enjoy the replacement. At least you’re lucky enough to be considered.

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It’s in the genetics if it’s prone to hermie it will , even if its stressed a little

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Their genetics or your environment.

I’m guessing you’re growing in a tent indoors? Have you tried getting inside the tent with a video camera/phone while it’s dark in the tent (but light outside of the tent), and recording around the inside? Phone camera’s are pretty good at picking up light that we can not really see with our naked eye.

I only suggest looking at your own environment because a 100% herm rate is pretty wild.

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Nah that’s par for the course with some of these genetics. Whole packs of Headbanger, Sowahh, Goji OG, GG4, etc all hermed. Thrown at least 10+ whole packs of plants into the compost for it. Males and females. Meanwhile NL5Haze, SSDD, and TK stable as fuck in the same exact environment. It’s called knowingly breeding with herms “because its only natural” :face_vomiting:

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dang that’s sad to hear! I’ve ran a couple of those and thankfully did not experience anything that bad. But yeah that’s crazy!

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Sorry to hear that.

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eh, just is what it is when these guys don’t look at their plants before they throw pollen around. Or worse, they know its a herm and breed with it anyways. “It’s sour, you should’ve known to lollipop”. The breeder telling you to lollipop the plant isn’t because it helps your yield, it’s because it hides the herms he knows are there.

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Can’t agree more, the most used strategy is to make feeling the growers like shit. Which can’t be responsible of the lack of screening of the release he bought.

At the end, you get standard of quality lowered as fuck organically, an omerta of growers and a free battleground for marketing. Win-Win but not in both sense. Until some grumpy old farts remember to the youth what kind of shit storm got a seedbank for only one pack fully hermied on thousands, back in the day.

Well the magic of OG maybe, but my worries with the Nice team ended this morning. Critical Mass on the go.

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From the mrnice seeds that I grow, I think that also found a little hermie in Mango Widow. Little because I only find two small bananas.
But I don’t know if blame them or not, because I also had some more hermies, with GG4, LPCx? And Cristy OG. The last two were from OGrowers and no other grower had hermies with them. And the LPC is having a contest with many people growing them without problem.
And they hermied differently than Mango Widow … They had many, many balls.
I read somewhere that the enzimes from a nutrient seller could cause that, but I can’t find the doc anymore.
Also growing Critical Skunk without problem.

Lately I see many people with herm problems. Could it be that LEDs stress the plants someway?

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Definitely. A lot of people underestimate how intense these new LEDs are.
I’m always keeping mine at the lowest setting now.
Plants are doing great anyway.

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My LEDs aren’t that intense, like 90 to 135 Watts, just a little 2 x 2. It’s not an issue I’ve had in the tents before and I’ve had them years. It was every single plant, even the ones started outside.

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That is one of the popular beaneries, I’ve never had a slightest bit of interest in going to.
No real reason, just never got the bug to check them out.

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I mean all those strains you mentioned can easily herm. I’d sooner blame the genetics. Especially since you have other strains that don’t herm at all in the same environment.

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Let me be a (kind) douchebag, like 1984 teached us … words sometimes have their importance. It’s just a demonstration.

I read somewhere that the enzimes from a nutrient seller could trigger faster the potential of herms.

(Pure and simple enzimes, i don’t think. But extreme fulvic acid level yes, tested.)

Lately i saw people reporting increased herms ratios. Could LEDs trigger them faster someway?

(I’m not fan of these lights, but LEDs just no. High density can reveal faster a polluted genetic used to be developed under low density. This, under ALL types of lights i know exceeding 500W/sqm : Neons, HPS, MH, CMH, LED and even the Sun itself. For those wanting to speak about the sex of the angels, in my old fashioned mind i speak about 50K-100K+ lumens/sqm)

And THIS ^^

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I ain’t pointing fingers at genetics, it could be problems with seeds storage, ya know? I’ve bought Mr. Nice seeds Nevil Hase, Aphgan, from herbies multiple times and it’s been almost a 50-50 male and female plants, so it might be an issue on your end or the distributor’s end.

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