I see pieces of Gandalf mushroom fruit in the two agar plates with ācloneā written on them. The swabs seem like theyāre more for continuing with a variety in general instead of aiming for the specific isolation.
Thank you for clarifying to make sure others who are reading will get the right impression on ācloningā vs āswabbingā a mushroom
And I agree that it looks like @Osogreen261 buried a substrate in there, that would be a likely source. I have also heart of some wood mulch causing mushrooms to sprout up unexpectedly in peopleās garden beds so I know that sometimes there are products people buy and they contain an extra mycelium surprise. Just trying to see if they know the source of it or if this was a complete surprise.
Little Brown Mushrooms can be tricky to identify and there are a lot of ālook alikesā that can be poisonous. So if their LBMs came up expectedly because of a buried sub then thatās good and the species/variety of mushroom is probably known. But if these popped up as a surprise and there was no buried substrate then I would treat them with suspicion and do not eat.
I ordered some 3lb grain spawn bags and a couple all-in-one grow bags from aPlusGrain earlier this week. Hopefully it arrives soon, USPS has been stuck on ālabel createdā since Wednesday.
Been feeling lazy and I havenāt bothered to prepare any spawn myself. I have a discount code for aPlusGrain after shopping from @MushroomManMycology so the price is reasonable considering it saves a decent chunk of work
Itās been a few years since Iāve ordered from anywhere. Tried a few Etsy vendors and had decent luck at first, but the last person I ordered from a few years ago sent me agar plates full of bacteria and a manure substrate that greened out with trich within 24 hours of mixing in my spawn.
Lol I was so stuck looking at the fruit and didnāt see the labels on the petris. Ya just wanted to make sure people understood difference. Sorry @GrowTheAtlas lol.
I agree if you didnāt put a substrate yourself Iād be super careful. Some soils come with mycelium in it so will throw mushrooms.
There is another I heard from Paul stamets. There is old mushroom hunters and risk taking mushroom hunters but no old risk taking mushroom hunters. Lol I didnāt quote because itās not quite right but you get idea.
Itāll be the same cultigen but youāll get wildly different phenotypes. I cloned and swabbed because when you clone a fruit and grow that out, you can see if thatās a regular expression of those genetics or if it was caused by environmental pressures like RH or just competition. Then you streak a plate with your spore swab from the same fruit you cloned from and grow them side by side to see if itās a regular expression of those genetics as well. If your clone gives you what youāre looking for, then you clone the best fruit from the first flush and keep that around. If your swab gives you something that the clone didnāt, youād clone and swab that.
The Gandalf came to me as an f2 but I technically took it to an f3. Iāll be trying to get the pumpkin phenotype to be stable enough until Iām happy with it, at that point Iāll keep a clone of the best pumpkin style fruit and use it as a monoculture. Heās not here on the forum but shoutout to Dave Wombat from TAT Syndicate for mentoring me!
@MikeyMeteor those Texas gold caps look like theyāre treating ya right
Itās so interesting to me how thereās such a big variety of P. cubensis, and how they can have different types of experience despite being the āsameā mushroom. Some seem to have more visuals, others can be more of a āmentalā trip, while still some others seem more focused in the body itself.
Over the years online Iāve seen a lot of āa cube is a cube is a cubeā but Iām not sure how accurate that phrase really is anymore lol
After all, APEs are cubes and they are definitely a different experience than Golden Teacher or B+.
Hot damn I love seeing these pictures from you all here. My order from aPlusGrain has been in āpre-shipmentā status for a week now without any update so Iām hoping it will arrive without any issues. At least thereās a silver lining to this cloud, the grain bags have had extra time to sit so if thereās any contam it will be more obvious upon arrival.
Iād posit that, just like cannabis, every variety affects people differently. And I only say that because the current batch of shrooms I have (no idea what they are, didnāt grow them)(pretty sure theyāre Penis Envy, though) gives me hardcore visuals, with the walls breathing and the floor heaving and when I go to the bathroom to take a piss the walls look all golden and I start thinking Iām in Morocco or somewhere exotic haha and have to kind of snap back to reality and be like,āYouāre just in your bathroom, dude, youāre not in Moroccoā¦ā
But the people Iāve eaten this particular batch with say they donāt get any visuals at all. Iām not surprised that my girl doesnāt get any, just because sheās a total control freak and probably doesnāt ālet goā as much as Iām willing to. Maybe she does get visuals and just doesnāt realize and/or admit it. But another friend of mine (who I constantly have to tell,āShut the fuck up about Paul Stamets already, I donāt give a shit about that guy.ā haha) also says that she doesnāt get any visuals from them. Sheās kind of a control freak, too, so maybe that has something to do with it, I dunno.
In any event, yeah, I donāt think that anybody can authoritatively say,āIf you eat this kind of mushroom, this is what the experience is gonna be like and thatās all there is to it.ā Itās not true.
I agree with this for the most part. A person can in no way know how a shrooms will effect someone else especially if grown from spores. Now I have been growing John Allens for about 2 years and pretty much the same effects everytime. Otherwise no way to tell. Iāve had shrooms that blasted me off but others said they donāt feel anything.. Itās definitely different for everyone. Now saying penis envy is one of the strongest cubes can and has been proven to have more psychoactive ingredients. All cubes are completely different when it comes to effects and depending on the person. Whatās good for some might not do it for others. Itās a super variable person and strain.
I donāt have a flow hood but I have something that works just as well lol. Itās a box fan from Walmart with a 3M HEPA filter taped to the front of it
for putting my mind at ease
Now that you mention it I think I do remember that one!
so Iām hoping it will arrive without any issues. At least thereās a silver lining to this cloud, the grain bags have had extra time to sit so if thereās any contam it will be more obvious upon arrival.
. Itās definitely different for everyone. Now saying penis envy is one of the strongest cubes can and has been proven to have more psychoactive ingredients. All cubes are completely different when it comes to effects and depending on the person. Whatās good for some might not do it for others. Itās a super variable person and strain.