I’ll smoke to that.
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there is also a Cambodian called Abducted. Looked fattleav-ish. said to be terrific. Terrific like an Alien Abduction 
. Am wondering if the Black African Magic aswell as other fatleaved Equatorials were infact so strong as the thinleaved counterparts from same region.
There was a halucinogenic Durban aswell, (made him seeing people that arent there) i recall vaguely it was short-fat aswell. these effects would be interesting to study, and compare
( i ment this raises question of supreriority, wich hybrid can hallucinate you?-- probably some, tell me wich, compare it, find truth)
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You can still get legit Indian lines it’s just a matter of for how much longer. The eastern manipur Burma have been on flower schedule sense Jan/18 and are just now showing sex on all but one plant , they look and grow as they should , nothing against rc personally but he is part of a circle of people who would love to have it be accepted that landraces are gone and only they have them, it’s been widely documented that many are contaminated and many are not. A lot of the people he has kept company with helped spread the Dutch genetics to remote areas while they collected landrace genetics ,not a coincidence but that’s for a entirely different thread that exist here on og 
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ok, im sorry… ive once smoked the real tripweed__
later this deep spiritual experience led me to find it again…
the memory helped me easily rule out 99,999 percent smokereports as not the same. trust me on that, if i say, the only tripreports i read, like about 10 , 15, they all came from old lines.
Im just saying, im pretty firm that something changed, no more the same almost around globe generalized… but im always listening… but miss abit someone offering a tripreport same as i had/hippies had.
i feel like: what can i just do to make people understand all my research… and how firm i am. never say never of corse, but…
And now they think i look down, or something… : read old hippies smokereports, they are true. 
you cant find em.?. well spend 6 years infromt of a pc. without much else…
And now you can come: they are fantasyzing… no, i had the same… mine was a real trip. weed is like that. - A real deal trip… 70s lines forever!
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Well part of the issue is that the long flowering strains that used to get shipped around the world are no longer the norm. With cannabis becoming more and more legal around the globe there is a lot more locally grown crops vs imported . The majority of commercial and standard growers want something that finishes fast and never contemplate a 16+week strain let alone a 20+ week variety. There is also the fact that a lot of areas simply won’t allow for those longer flowering plants to finish before winter comes and 4-5 months of flowering indoors is also something most can not justify. Unfortunately because profit margins are often the largest motivating factor the exotic imports of the old days are just about never seen unless you grow them your self or happen to live in those areas.
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its the smallest part of the issue. weed was a trip, even grown here… im repeating
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Maybe it was the stuff getting sprayed on the fields lol
Just teasing,kinda
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What do you mean by trip? Like dancing walls and trees turning into skulls and stuff?
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ahaa <<<< , yes
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3 way, 4 way, no one seems to know for sure, or if they do, they’re not telling, from what I’ve read. I find the “stories” very interesting,
You mentioned something about there being only one pure haze… I just was wondering where you came up with that? I like to read about this stuff.
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Oh God I don’t remember where I read it. I read between 4 and 6 hours a day and I can’t remember half of what I learned much less where I learned it. You can be sure if it’s floating around in this head of mine it’s accurate information. @TheCrueltyDesk might remember where he learned it though.
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that’s great! Lol. Not me though:grin:
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If I had a nickle…lol!
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Its been a long while since i read up on the original haze, lotta that info is from sam, & he is opinionated but that doesnt mean he is wrong. The original haze was 2 or a few colombian varieties but after some years it suffered from inbreeding depression (i think sam said something like 4 or 5 years, that seems real fast to me for an equatorial narrow leaf landrace hybrid to show signs of inbreeding depression but 
) n yeah then after that they started adding other landrace narrow leafs to the mix. Supposedly there was only one original haze, there was probably certainly only that stock that made it to the dutch, but i have a lot of doubt there was only one line that was called haze & would easily be considered haze but i think it all kinda boils down to these dudes came up with the name haze n other equatorial narrow leafs being grown in so cal after that got famous also started being referred to as haze so those guys had the original haze.
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Again been a while but thats what I remember, then old timers haze is in the mix n i cant remember where that supposedly came from, n that is supposedly the colombian haze before all the other lines were added. I ought to read up on some of this stuff again but tbh they changed ic mag around n some older threads arent on there anymore so i wonder if some of the older haze threads are still up. Somebody needs to document/print out some of those old threads, like the origins of the chem lines was set in stone there, we dont need that lost so people can start arguing n making shit up again.
N say what you will about the old timers haze that shit is about as narrow leaf as it gets n im happy i have like 7 beans of that line
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That really makes sense. The old-timer Haze is Colombian genetically.
I agree. Way too fast imo. It would take longer to stabilize into an ibl…
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There was more then one often referred to by color,there is even reference to each one on the haze brothers poster but it’s often to blurry to see. Green , purple, and i think silver and blue but I could be remembering wrong. Haze was grown from seed all over the Santa Cruze mtns for quite some time.
There has also been some Malawi floating around Santa Cruz sense the seventies, equilibrium genetics did some great work with the malawi
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