I know people who were growing og kush In los Angela’s prior to 2002 indoors , the bubba and bubba Kush were around back then as well.
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yeah the classic OG has been around since the early 00s. the ocean grown story as I heard it is an oral history of growing in the emerald triangle, roughly spanning the time period from the late 70s until the early 00s.
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Interesting… The Taos OG (OG Tahoe, or as I infer, an OG Kush from Lake Tahoe area) is super-stacked leg-sized colas of very dense and very large buds. It has the best mold, frost, and rot resistance of any plant I’ve ever grown, even when challenged repeatedly in late flower. It is also easy to trim and grow; It does not require a lot of nutrients or perfect conditions. It expresses terpenes well in extreme environments like mine at 8400ft in the Rockies. The internodal length is short, like 1 inch or less with that zig-zag growth and sometimes 3 finger leaves. It’s a commercial quality yield monster and it is highly potent as well.
It’s definitely not lanky like most of the other clones I’ve seen so far that require perfect conditions to produce tasty buds.
It also does not form seeds, ever. It will not herm.
Heavy gas, mint, citrus funk terps.
Someday I will figure out what I have here, LOL.
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The guy who made the OG kush says that they weren’t seed that were available from the catalogue, they were ones sold cheap in the shop in Amsterdam at the time. So they might well be Nevilles, but there’s no way of knowing exactly what they were.
*edit (if were agreed on Marty’s story as the origin of OG)
I still belive it comes from the term OG, as in its the original, but @zephyr does tell a convincing story.
Fair enough, I’m not from Cali though, but rap music is literally how I got into smoking weed, I lived vicariously through gangsta rappers haha 
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I can’t imagine a Hindu Kush at a seed shop that was not also available in the magazines , there were very few people in the seed business back then and most of the Amsterdam genetics came from a hand-full of sources. From what I gathers speaking with him everybody is pretty confident it was nevils Hindu. The real mystery is what the emerald triangle was , the people who would know would be well into there 70s and from what I understand were lost touch with long ago.
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Any truth to the story at the rainbow where BREAL was going through show and tell weed and said thats that OG right there?
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The kushes are still around and everyone is breeding with them, and no one is finding OG in there.
OG has sativa vigor and structure with kush flowering time and hybrid yields - though lower than say NL5 x Haze.
It is a well-made strain with a lot of work behind it and many players involved.
I think both California and Florida were involved. And also the Cold War (Vietnam, Afghanistan).
At first, I was skeptical of Florida and TK, but as people are coming out of the woodwork and communing, stories are lining up.
Having been on hills in half a dozen different states meeting new and old breeders, I can say there’s always elements and people involved that anybody would be uncomfortable talking about yet played a pretty big part.
Like Air America. H.A. Take your pick.
Most people who were from back in the 80’s or earlier all have a story about the life-changing transformation the time Green Bud came around. Under Daddy Bush, brown Mexi weed was everywhere and you really had to know someone to get any craft like Hawaiian or Thai. Then Clinton comes in and all of a sudden Gren Bud is everywhere, yet its genesis always is attributed to some local folklore and never gets attributed to the global players.
The trick to lying or propaganda is to tell 85% truth.
In this industry, we can only get 85% of the story, at least only that much from being online.
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I always understood it as “OG” meant “original”, was actually “og.” in sharpie. Nothing to do with oceans or gangsters or anything like that.
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I would agree, it was first grown indoors on tables with a modified version of the Lucas formula using the three part gh solution.
For the la kush family it’s original genetics
For the unrelated Tahoe og from master Thai it’s organically grown
Then came ocean grown and original gangster but those were always assumptions ive never heard or seen any of the original crew refer to it as either.
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I know I’m loving the strain. I remember the first time I got kush. I do enjoy the stories of these guys. I remember people growing some crazy stuff in the 80 and 90’s.
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Not the best Pic nor the best looking plants but people can get the idea.
Spare TK clone (Left), KushxKush plant (Right)
The Kush smells more like TK and OG than Pure NL2.
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Anyone heard from @Mongobongo? I just sold a pack of the og x og from him, and didn’t know it was from him until after I sold it lol.
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Grains of salt lol. That dude claims he has Dogbud.
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lol when it comes to anything OG history, grain of salt for damn sure 
I wouldn’t be surprised if someone still had the dogbud though. I had it for just one night somewhere around 20ish years ago 
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dogbud is still around but held pretty tight by folks who might not be into the online scene.
The last time it was mentioned to me outside the internet was just a couple years ago when my friend was visitting family in oregon. His brother apparently has a nice spot and a few oldies in his collection. James said his favorite smoke down there was the old school dogbud and a wicked lemon haze he wouldn’t stop talking about. I ribbed him hard for not finding a way to bring back some cuts LOL That pesky border gets in the way of progress some times.
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I’d believe it! I remember the Dogbud being better than any of the Chem’s I’ve ever had. And I love me some lemon haze 
Maybe they’ll get out one day 
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There were a few different strains that went by the name dog bud so just like many other strains it’s hard to know if what one refers to is the same as the other.
I posted the genetic make up or at least what is rumored to be somewhere on this site , probably in the dog bud thread.
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