Agreed!! I think the commercial industry is shit… they are ruining the plant as we know it . And all the same people that used to vote to put us in jail… I say let’s compete… make sure they don’t make it lol… fuck em… where I’m at the dispensaries can’t even label shit right… indicas are hybrids … sativas are indica Dom hybrid etc… they claim its the breeders… either way it’s bs and they do NOT treat it on a medical scale … which in my mind should be at this point a criminal offense just like if a med company mislabeled a drug for anything else… LITIGATION. . That’s what they need to come correct… and all the while most anyone doing it at home is far better. Better products better genetics… better care… makes the commercial industry a stomach turning thing… so sick of seeing rich people screw up products with their “ideas”
No i don’t know that # I don’t use a ppfd meter
But they don’t seem to mind it they like the light up close
Well I agree with that because they just dropped sales tax on medicinal completely 
look’n good, papa …
hope u enjoy the nyc sour later on.
i just send out a pigeon your way.
very sorry for taking so long, bro.
i’ll tag along and enjoy the show 
Would be cool to see what the number is ya know.?
Thanks @santero much appreciated ! Hopefully all is well on your side of the pond 
Paps
It would be but then I’ll need to check every thing then
No that’s not me anymore I need simple stupid in my live now
I try to grow simple easy something’s are not needed to know especially at this stage of my life
I do need to improve my lighting
I love the California lightworks full spectrum 500 it serves me well but it need supplemental lighting when they get big
But to maintain proper light distribution it needs to be at min of 24 inches above the canopy and at times depending on strains I don’t have the over head ( that’s why I got the 80 inch tent 
)
When this tent goes I’ll just go open no tent full ceiling hight I got 96 inches total that should do it
For now I installed 2 @ 24 inch full spectrum led strips it helps a lot
Hay @ifish
I was looking at the jacks web site there’s a feeding schedule there that recommended week 1 of transition to go with a 0/50/30
I haven’t seen any talk about it but may do a side by side test next run just for ha ha’s
I could see lowering the n at the 3 week like we normally do and I have done a 10/30/20 plus a 0/50/30 boost at equal parts and the bud development was very quick , with hard , dense large buds but it was the first time I ever got bud rot
Paps
I see… no I was just saying I wonder what differences are between our lights… I am the opposite… for now… using all the meters to learn the flow of things type deal… then after many successful grows I’m sure there will be no need anymore… but reason I initially bought the ppfd meter… is with trolmaster I can set the ppfd… not percentage strength… to a certain number and trolmaster will adjust up and down for me… but then I thought later… that’s just hard on an expensive light… so now it’s just a reference 
Paps There are many different feed sheduals out there pushing in many different directions at different stages
If going a 0/50/30 in stretch then before and after extra n maybe needed , thus changing the shedule to suit : )
Deffo good to experiment and see , no extra n maybe needed and it might help control stretch , you won’t know till you try : )
Ok I couldn’t resist
Amazon prime day got me
Rositeck press was looking at it 2 days ago for 240
Today 189 2 ton press 3x3 plate
It’s big enough for me
Took a look at the Oaxaca tent
The one lady in the back is a different phenom ( call her #1 Oax
Out of the 5 plants she’s the only one with a different bud type ( more airy the the others and took about 5 more days to develop
My pollinated plant took very well looks like there will be a bunch of seeds this run
As a side note I did pollinate a chocolate rain in the main tent also and she is also going to produce a good amount of seeds woo hoo
All plants not topped are at the light or above it
The ones I topped are staying about 5 inches below the light
Next run with Oaxaca they will all get topped they don’t mind topping or mainline style training either ( the one in the 3 gallon is mainlined )
I believe this is how I’ll run my Sativa’s from now on
But the next tent I buy to replace this one will be 80 inches tall instead of 57
Group
#1 Oax
Bud style of the others
The one good thing is I can still remove them to prune and water the bad thing is hand watering lol spoiled by my Octopots
Hay @Hamme if I try you method I’ll start small in the 24 x 24 tent
I may need a little help from you and @ifish if I switch things up ( Like usual I always need help )
Maybe next run
Paps
Amazing Work paps : )
They look great
Thanks bro I’m not a sativa guy as you may know I like my indica
But this sounded like some of the old time happy weed I miss so let hope I don’t screw up this 13 to 16 weeks flowering time
I’ve got 12 to 14 more weeks to go oh shit lol
Paps
Will be nice Christmas smoke : )
That’s the only problem. 16 is a long time. But it will be worth it.
Which male or pollen did you use?? And let me know how that press works out for you. Buddy of mine has been looking for a non expensive one for a while.
Pap is in bed. Lol
Hi slyer I used the pollen from an Oaxacana male he was tall and lanky like his sisters I let one of your chocolate rain ladies get cozy and played a little Marvin Gay music turned out the lights and gave them some privacy lol when I looked in n them there was white stuff everywhere
It looks like she’s loaded time will tell
Your more then welcome to some of the offspring lol
When there ready I’ll send some them your way my brother
Now the press I still need to get use to it .
I did 2 successful presses the first 2 I didn’t read or follow the instructions lol so I wasted them but the next 2 I got some nice wax . The press is manual so it takes a bit of effort
@hemp
Yep I was sleeping that wax knocked me out lol
Had a good night with the wife. I smoked some that knocked me out. I had alot on my mind last night. Been thinking about this move.