Plants Domesticated Humans

I read a book called ‘The Botany of Desire’ by a guy named Michael Pollan and in the book he suggests that plants were the driving force behind the entirety of civilization.

It wasn’t until we started agriculture and cultivating, that we truly became ‘civilized’ and thus ‘evolved’ from a hunter gatherer species.

Here’s a youtube video that argues this same thing.

So what do you think, do your plants own your ass and you just do their bidding, or are we truly the dominant species?

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I love Michael Pollan but haven’t checked that one out yet. It is interesting but to think that plants domesticated us is a but of a stretch. If you read any Ray Kurzweil I suggest “How To Create a Mind”.

If you think about life as organized hierarchies of data, the plant idea makes more sense but as part of a system - I’d like to think it as Mother Nature domesticating us versus just plants.

That said, I’ve heard some pretty compelling arguments about Corn being the ultimate domesticator - it is is almost everything we eat from the grocery store, by products in almost everything we use by virtue of ethanol and is one of the most widely grown crops… thereby ensuring its survival.

I will have to check out that one out!

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Never looked at it from that angle but an intriguing idea. Always up for an interesting read so I’ll check it out. Thanks. Always open to new ideas but my ego resists the idea of being a plant’s bitch and makes me agree with @Rhuin and prefers to see it as mother nature.

Really it was Beer,

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I have a similar response we people ask if i am a “master grower”… I say “I feed the plant, I water it, I check it for bugs, etc etc, and it just stays in one place…who is the master in that relationship?”

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@Dewb well in spite of what I’d like to think it’s pretty damn convincing when you put it like that. Maybe we are the plants bitch after all. I’m still calling it mother nature.

@oldfreak I’ve also seen beer, more precisely alcohol, undo that civilizing pretty damn quick as well. Not in my case though, as I always uphold the values of truly civilized society😇…least best as I can remember🙄

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If you don’t remember anything then nothing happened. Yeah . . . that’s it! I’m gonna go with that.
More beer!

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beer wine weed, it all comes from plants.
video says these types of useful plants started being recognized and cultivated at around the same time around the globe, middle east, asia, south america etc.

I like you already. Lol.

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I can see it, before when humans were nomads. Our forefathers had 15% larger brains and much much stronger. Something definitely changed us that’s a fact.

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